Posts by Fisherman

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20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

by Vanderhoven7 in

i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

Fisherman

Watchtower leaders have been false teachers and incompetent Bible interpreters from the start.

Not at all. They JW deciphered the meaning and theme of the Bible and that can only be done with God’s help. They have also published their findings to a global magnitude helping people to get a better understanding of God’s word. And have translated the Bible to the modern language of the people in practically every language on earth. JW help people to put their faith hope and confidence in God. Obviously JW make mistakes but they do their best. Jesus will judge JW works and efforts when he separates the sheep and goats—as he will also judge each person.

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20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

by Vanderhoven7 in

i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

Fisherman

There are more than 5000 archaeological documents that prove that date wrong!!!

That is an interpretation. JW believe different.

What about my other questions?

Not question but rhetoric. JW disagree with your view.

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20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

by Vanderhoven7 in

i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

Fisherman

The wrong date of 1914 in connection with the wrong date of the destruction of Jerusalem?

Because that ain’t wrong.

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20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

by Vanderhoven7 in

i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

Fisherman

doesn't that mean their understanding of the Bible is not correct?

And they corrected it.

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20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

by Vanderhoven7 in

i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

Fisherman

But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say

Relating to JW dates, That is not prophecy. It is interpretation of prophecy.

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20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

by Vanderhoven7 in

i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

Fisherman

that the "7 trumpets of Revelation chapters 8 - 11" were 7 talks given at Bible Student conventions in the 1920s.
That is right. JW are fulfilling Bible prophecy.

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20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

by Vanderhoven7 in

i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

Fisherman

But they did get those dates wrong.

That doesn’t disqualify them as God’s org or falsify their correct understanding of the Bible.

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A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.

by Fisherman in

obviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.

and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.

in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.

Fisherman

holy lives that we might also be a "holy priesthood

First remember to factor in all the other Bible verses I mentioned. Bringing in new scriptures don’t invalidate them or the fact that christians in heaven will rule with Christ as king priests over christians on earth. So, that establishes that not all christians have the heavenly hope.

There is zero need whatsoever for humans to go to heaven except to rule with Christ as king priests for a purpose and that purpose is to reconcile humans to God and to heal their sinful condition, etc. The office of priest is not for helping the angels. Angels don’t need priests.

God never intended humans to die or go to heaven either or for Jesus to become human, etc. The whole thing including some humans going to heaven is God’s remedy to fix the problem on earth: sin, death, suffering by means of the “Messianic kingdom”. God did not change his mind about creating the earth and having humans living on it and humans eating from the tree of life. It just so happens that ONLY christians are saved so that debunks any argument whatsoever that christians will be ruling over non-christians

All christians going to heaven is nonsensical as I have unquestionably established.

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A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.

by Fisherman in

obviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.

and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.

in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.

Fisherman

You have assumed a comparison that is not in the text.

No. That is why i cited Rev 5:10 and said compare. And don’t forget the rest of my argument. And don’t forget the New Jerusalem. Rev 5:10 validates a limited amount of Christians with the heavenly hope ruling over saved christians on earth not having the heavenly hope. More chiefs than indians is nonsensical. Obviously (axiomatically) there is a small flock of christians with the heavenly hope compared to the christians on earth.

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Arthritis pain. What works for you?

by Fisherman in

there are several prescription meds people use to relieve the pain of arthritis.

they work by suppressing the immune system or by reducing inflammation.

people also use otc anti-inflammatory pills, and even anti-allergy pills are reported to work because of being able to also reduce inflammation but people tell me that they are concerned to use some meds regularly because of potential side effects in long term use.

Fisherman

Thanks. Looking at ALL suggestions. Helpful. Will try them all. Much appreciated.

Waton, my dad had the hip surgery too in his 90’s local anesthesia only. Wow, it really stopped the pain and it went great. What a relief and improved his quality of life.