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  20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

  that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

  unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

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  Fisherman

  Still, no answers to my questions...

  Read the posts on this site by “scholar” on this topic and my commentary on those threads. But if you have facts other than the interpretation and conclusions please show. Your posts so far are assertions.
  
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  20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

  that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

  unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

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  Fisherman

  they've been wrong once, how can you be sure they are not wrong now?

  But the approach to Bible interpretation is honest and correct and there is good reason to believe they are correct

  Like saying science has been wrong before thus science is unreliable. However that is fallacious logic.
  
  
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  20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

  that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

  unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

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  Fisherman

  No interpretation here, facts

  That is your assertion. The only fact is that the conclusion you allude to based on interpretation of the evidence.
  What you further post is also commentary and feel free to have your view. We disagree. No secret. Jw publishes their position. I am convinced of WT argument.
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  20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

  that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

  unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

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  Fisherman

  Watchtower leaders have been false teachers and incompetent Bible interpreters from the start.

  Not at all. They JW deciphered the meaning and theme of the Bible and that can only be done with God’s help. They have also published their findings to a global magnitude helping people to get a better understanding of God’s word. And have translated the Bible to the modern language of the people in practically every language on earth. JW help people to put their faith hope and confidence in God. Obviously JW make mistakes but they do their best. Jesus will judge JW works and efforts when he separates the sheep and goats—as he will also judge each person.
  
  
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  20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

  that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

  unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

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  Fisherman

  There are more than 5000 archaeological documents that prove that date wrong!!!

  That is an interpretation. JW believe different.
  

  What about my other questions?

  
  Not question but rhetoric. JW disagree with your view.
  
  
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  20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

  that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

  unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

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  Fisherman

  The wrong date of 1914 in connection with the wrong date of the destruction of Jerusalem?

  Because that ain’t wrong.
  
  
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  20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

  that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

  unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

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  Fisherman

  doesn't that mean their understanding of the Bible is not correct?

  And they corrected it.
  
  
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  20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

  that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

  unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

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  Fisherman

  But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say

  Relating to JW dates, That is not prophecy. It is interpretation of prophecy.
  
  
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  20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

  that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

  unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

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  1. that the "7 trumpets of Revelation chapters 8 - 11" were 7 talks given at Bible Student conventions in the 1920s.

     That is right. JW are fulfilling Bible prophecy.

     
     
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  20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

  that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

  unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

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  Fisherman

  But they did get those dates wrong.

  That doesn’t disqualify them as God’s org or falsify their correct understanding of the Bible.