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  Have JW `s ever faced the topic of Jesus having inherited Adamic sin ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
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  according to the bible all humans male and female have inherited sin because of adam and eve`s disobedience to god .. god may have impregnated mary with a life force , however it was still sinful mary who gave birth to jesus after nine months in her body who is /was supposedly without sin ?.

  mary must have passed on some of her sinful state to jesus having been in her womb for the past nine months , surely.

  and there is nothing in the bible / scripture to say otherwise ?.

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  Fisherman

  Jesus was pre-conceived in vitro within a heavenly laboratory.

  Mary was not a surrogate mother. She was genetically related to Jesus and probably looked like him.
  
  
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  Have JW `s ever faced the topic of Jesus having inherited Adamic sin ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to the bible all humans male and female have inherited sin because of adam and eve`s disobedience to god .. god may have impregnated mary with a life force , however it was still sinful mary who gave birth to jesus after nine months in her body who is /was supposedly without sin ?.

  mary must have passed on some of her sinful state to jesus having been in her womb for the past nine months , surely.

  and there is nothing in the bible / scripture to say otherwise ?.

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  Fisherman

  DG, Bible says that through one man sin entered into the world and blames Adam. There is an argument that that is why Jesus did not inherited sin from Mary but the argument is based on conclusions not evidence.
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  Have JW `s ever faced the topic of Jesus having inherited Adamic sin ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to the bible all humans male and female have inherited sin because of adam and eve`s disobedience to god .. god may have impregnated mary with a life force , however it was still sinful mary who gave birth to jesus after nine months in her body who is /was supposedly without sin ?.

  mary must have passed on some of her sinful state to jesus having been in her womb for the past nine months , surely.

  and there is nothing in the bible / scripture to say otherwise ?.

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  Fisherman

  Holy Spirit’ Is an entirely unverifiable

  The premise in this topic is Jesus’s miraculous birth. Then how could Jesus still be perfect given his sinful mother. 1 answer is God fixed the genetics 2 Sin is passed down by the father so in this case given the premise, Jesus did not have a human father.
  
  
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  Have JW `s ever faced the topic of Jesus having inherited Adamic sin ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to the bible all humans male and female have inherited sin because of adam and eve`s disobedience to god .. god may have impregnated mary with a life force , however it was still sinful mary who gave birth to jesus after nine months in her body who is /was supposedly without sin ?.

  mary must have passed on some of her sinful state to jesus having been in her womb for the past nine months , surely.

  and there is nothing in the bible / scripture to say otherwise ?.

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  Fisherman

  There is no mechanism to "Jesus's" perfection.

  That is what the discussion is about.
  
  
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  Have JW `s ever faced the topic of Jesus having inherited Adamic sin ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to the bible all humans male and female have inherited sin because of adam and eve`s disobedience to god .. god may have impregnated mary with a life force , however it was still sinful mary who gave birth to jesus after nine months in her body who is /was supposedly without sin ?.

  mary must have passed on some of her sinful state to jesus having been in her womb for the past nine months , surely.

  and there is nothing in the bible / scripture to say otherwise ?.

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  Fisherman

  You are limiting the scope of the discussion.

  I am not; posters can do what they like. I am just saying the the Topic is about the mechanics of Jesus’s perfection not about whether the Bible is false. Because the Bible describes Jesus as sinless and the Topic is based on that premise,
  
  
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  Watchtower looses Norwegian Appeal

  by Diogenesister in

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  2. current

  watchtower has just lost its appeal in the norwegian courts over the withdrawal of the funding it receives from the government as an officially recognised religion.

  the initial decision will now stand due to what the court termed 'exclusionary practices' which includes the witnesses barbaric practice of shunning minors, even by family members in their own homes.

  the ministry of children and families have decided they are now no longer eligible for the state grant of 16 million norwegian kroner given to officially recognised religions.. the following is a statement has been issued, i have summarised if it isn't readable: .

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  Fisherman

  Smid, based on God things to God. Rarely do the authorities act sua sponte on theses matters. Usually it is because someone complained who has beef against the JW religion.
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  Watchtower looses Norwegian Appeal

  by Diogenesister in

  1. social
  2. current

  watchtower has just lost its appeal in the norwegian courts over the withdrawal of the funding it receives from the government as an officially recognised religion.

  the initial decision will now stand due to what the court termed 'exclusionary practices' which includes the witnesses barbaric practice of shunning minors, even by family members in their own homes.

  the ministry of children and families have decided they are now no longer eligible for the state grant of 16 million norwegian kroner given to officially recognised religions.. the following is a statement has been issued, i have summarised if it isn't readable: .

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  Fisherman

  The government has authority to enforce LAWS that apply to everybody but not to impose on religion how the government likes religion to adjudicate morality or how religion should be practiced. It is a right whether or not one wishes to talk to or have to fellowship with someone in a religious setting. Prejudice based on bias is one thing but not be forced to practice religion by moral rules made up by the government. Something is wrong with the government when they resort to interfere with religious freedom.
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  Have JW `s ever faced the topic of Jesus having inherited Adamic sin ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to the bible all humans male and female have inherited sin because of adam and eve`s disobedience to god .. god may have impregnated mary with a life force , however it was still sinful mary who gave birth to jesus after nine months in her body who is /was supposedly without sin ?.

  mary must have passed on some of her sinful state to jesus having been in her womb for the past nine months , surely.

  and there is nothing in the bible / scripture to say otherwise ?.

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  Fisherman

  Hi Waton,

  Jesus'" perfection has never been proven

  That’s a different subject matter. The Bible refers to JC as the second Adam and without sin. What is being discussed here is how is that possible.
  
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  Have JW `s ever faced the topic of Jesus having inherited Adamic sin ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to the bible all humans male and female have inherited sin because of adam and eve`s disobedience to god .. god may have impregnated mary with a life force , however it was still sinful mary who gave birth to jesus after nine months in her body who is /was supposedly without sin ?.

  mary must have passed on some of her sinful state to jesus having been in her womb for the past nine months , surely.

  and there is nothing in the bible / scripture to say otherwise ?.

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  Fisherman

  Basically , their answer is ‘magic’.

  Nope. Given Jesus’s miraculous birth, it’s not magic, it’s God’s Holy Spirit. “If it is by means of God’s finger…then the kingdom of God has really overtaken you.”

  The Insight Book in general has been refined (not only in the related explanation about Jesus’s perfection in-spite of Mary’s sinfulness.) You will find that in other Bible interpretations and topics, there is very little commentary now except for what can be supported with evidence from the Bible. The Bible does not say how Jehovah did it or why Jesus was born perfect although his mother was a sinner.
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  “Heaven and Earth will pass away but my words will by no means pass away.”

  by Fisherman in

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  “this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.

  heaven and earth will pass away but my words will by no means pass away.”.

  the destruction of jerusalem is insignificant in the large scheme of things.

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  Fisherman

  Only 3 gospels recount the olivette. In Revelation a great crowd survives the great tribulation that did not happen in 70 and neither did Armageddon and other climactic events such as the fall of B the great. In the Bible, prophecy can have a greater meaning and fulfillment. Take for example what Paul said about Sarah and Haagar being a prophetic drama.