Posts by Fisherman

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Court case Jehovah's Witnesses Norway kicked off

by AndersonsInfo in

https://cne.news/article/2827-court-case-jehovah-s-witnesses-norway-kicked-off.

norwegian jehovah's witnesses are in court this wednesday and thursday.

they are fighting the government's decision to remove their registration as a religious community.. .

Fisherman

governments have a right

Other entities too

“unnecessarily” breaking up families

(lol)

My friend never a JW instead of just enjoying his JW family calls the grandchildren up to wish them a happy birthday, Easter bunnies and chocolate eggs etc and keeps pushing his morality and beliefs upon his family. So you know what his family did??? On the other hand a JW family I know lets the DF grandfather see his grandkids. He loves them and loves his son so he doesn’t push his non JW lifestyle on them. But JW belief or not what do you think will happen if grandpa is or becomes a bad influence?

I think it has nothing to do with JW DF standards. Family won’t have anything to do with you if you are a bad influence which is usually the case. Rarely is a df family member good company because they keep pushing their beliefs instead of simply and quietly and trustingly enjoy the grandkids.

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Has the governing body been had by the 'superior Authorities'?

by was a new boy in

nyc mayor praises jw's for obeying authorities.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzy5xtr5gvg.

Fisherman

The US is a democracy. The people are the superior authority. Agents of THE PEOPLE such as a police agency of a municipality must have legal authority to compel. A municipality or a government agency can enforce laws but they have zero legal authority to go around intimidating people or coercing people or telling people what to do just because they are gov employees. They are public servants not kings or queens. The public is not legally required to be in subjection to non compulsory demands just because someone is a gov employee. For example 1A, 4A are rights people have. The public is foolish to surrender such rights confused they are being in subjection to the superior authorities. In the US, all it means is to be law abiding. You have no legal obligation to be in subjection to someone who is violating your rights or encroaching on your freedom.

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Would I be disfellowshiped for this?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

if a publisher openly told the elders that they thought the gb were wrong about some or a lot of things, but said they will not share these thoughts with anyone else then would this be a case of disassociation disgfellowship?.

my guess is lots of elders meetings and shepherding calls to try to get you to say something they could use against you.. but what would be the sin in which you are not repented?.

the only reason to be dissed is non repentance?.

Fisherman

Openly admitting and questioning anything as the GB being as wrong

Obviously if you phrase it like that specifically mentioning gb.

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England: Failure to Report Child Abuse to be Illegal

by notsurewheretogo in

people who work with children in england will be legally required to report child sexual abuse or face prosecution under government plans.. .

the move - which is subject to a consultation - was recommended last year by the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse (iicsa).. .

the home secretary told the bbc she wanted to correct one of the "biggest national scandals".. .

Fisherman

to prepare the eldubs for a windfall of lawsuits and legal ramifications.

Reporting is compulsory, therefore, jw must act within the bounds of law but law suits and legal ramifications were always a peril no matter what you do.

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Would I be disfellowshiped for this?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

if a publisher openly told the elders that they thought the gb were wrong about some or a lot of things, but said they will not share these thoughts with anyone else then would this be a case of disassociation disgfellowship?.

my guess is lots of elders meetings and shepherding calls to try to get you to say something they could use against you.. but what would be the sin in which you are not repented?.

the only reason to be dissed is non repentance?.

Fisherman

Nah. Obviously wt has admitted they were wrong in the past so what is the difference at present. But verbalizing beliefs that go against teaching to the elders can get a person marked.

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Court case Jehovah's Witnesses Norway kicked off

by AndersonsInfo in

https://cne.news/article/2827-court-case-jehovah-s-witnesses-norway-kicked-off.

norwegian jehovah's witnesses are in court this wednesday and thursday.

they are fighting the government's decision to remove their registration as a religious community.. .

Fisherman

Noted: Brilliant and funny analysts.

When are they going to stop liking putting people in jail or enforcing restraining orders to separate law breakers (based on secular standards) from children and their families and from society. People are so funny.

Bet petrodollars to donuts that a reversal is looming or the European Court will act similarly. Democratic governments have no jurisdiction telling religion how to adjudicate sin.Mormon, Jews, the Catholic church also practice excommunication. A club member can’t go around breaking rules without consequences from the club and then go to government to force the club to take them back because the club should not enforce their own beliefs and practices as the JW put it before the Canadian Supreme Court decided in JW favor.

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England: Failure to Report Child Abuse to be Illegal

by notsurewheretogo in

people who work with children in england will be legally required to report child sexual abuse or face prosecution under government plans.. .

the move - which is subject to a consultation - was recommended last year by the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse (iicsa).. .

the home secretary told the bbc she wanted to correct one of the "biggest national scandals".. .

Fisherman

Now, people must… or face prosecution

NOW it’s illegal all of a sudden. Finally, what a relief. Funny how everybody got angry at people not reporting when it was perfectly legal to do so and not at the government. People are so funny.

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Court case Jehovah's Witnesses Norway kicked off

by AndersonsInfo in

https://cne.news/article/2827-court-case-jehovah-s-witnesses-norway-kicked-off.

norwegian jehovah's witnesses are in court this wednesday and thursday.

they are fighting the government's decision to remove their registration as a religious community.. .

Fisherman

Taking away benefits that have no impact on their freedom to practice doesn't seem like tyranny.
How is that the same as jail or restraining orders?

Noted

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Court case Jehovah's Witnesses Norway kicked off

by AndersonsInfo in

https://cne.news/article/2827-court-case-jehovah-s-witnesses-norway-kicked-off.

norwegian jehovah's witnesses are in court this wednesday and thursday.

they are fighting the government's decision to remove their registration as a religious community.. .

Fisherman

The court won't force the JWs to end the shunning practice, will they? They are taking away some benefits

Not the same heh? Seems like tyranny. How about ending jail and restraining orders between family members. What do you like? To punish jw vindictively.

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Court case Jehovah's Witnesses Norway kicked off

by AndersonsInfo in

https://cne.news/article/2827-court-case-jehovah-s-witnesses-norway-kicked-off.

norwegian jehovah's witnesses are in court this wednesday and thursday.

they are fighting the government's decision to remove their registration as a religious community.. .

Fisherman

Comparing a kangaroo court with a Family Court of the real world is not sensible

If you aren’t able to comprehend that the comparison is not to method of adjudicating but to jail and orders of protection to DF separates family members, have a nice day to you. You seem to like Family Court but you don’t like JW religious process of sin. Up to you.