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  What would you change?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m agnostic so maybe the universe started by chance or by design.. if it was by design (hypothetically) and the bible is the designers word, and jws seem to be the closest to it, then what would be the largest things you would change?.

  here are a few ideas.

  -do away with the governing body thinking they are gods only channel.

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  Fisherman

  what if they are preaching another gospel

  What if not.

  It is a personal conclusion like in the first century believing that JC was the Messiah and listening to him. If believing that wt is not God’s agency is inconsequential, it doesn’t matter.
  
  
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  What would you change?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m agnostic so maybe the universe started by chance or by design.. if it was by design (hypothetically) and the bible is the designers word, and jws seem to be the closest to it, then what would be the largest things you would change?.

  here are a few ideas.

  -do away with the governing body thinking they are gods only channel.

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  Fisherman

  There are a things that are destined to change if the end doesn’t come —soon: the adjudication of sin, the role of females in the congregation, the elder, servant body class, the congregation management policy, FDS and the anointed definition and status, blood, hierarchy.

  Male and female anointed get to be kings in heaven but while on earth they are the same as everybody else. Also, those in positions of authority roles in the congregation have the purpose of management and spiritual assistance but not leadership. There is a harsh approach to management nowadays which will surely change.

  WT made the representation in the past of a special “channel of communication “ but later wt admitted in the literature that although HS is a factor in JW work that there is no special communication than everyone else’s inside the org. —So JW know that WT claims are real because JW have a real relationship with God but there is no position of special standing in comparison to everyone else.
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  What would you change?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m agnostic so maybe the universe started by chance or by design.. if it was by design (hypothetically) and the bible is the designers word, and jws seem to be the closest to it, then what would be the largest things you would change?.

  here are a few ideas.

  -do away with the governing body thinking they are gods only channel.

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  Stop insulting the intelligence of people by insisting that Adam and Eve were actual characters and that life hasn't existed on earth for millions of years.

  Cofty, can’t be done. Jesus validated their existence and AE are also linked to Bible chronology: “Male and female He created them.” So, millions of years appears to contradict the Bible. The ransom and death and human suffering are integrated with the historicity of A&E. Cannot have the Bible or JC who’s genealogy goes back to Adam -without them.
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  Nobody ever said JUH hovah or Jee sus until the 16th Century

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na22kkydprshttps://www.dictionary.com/e/j/".

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  Jesus because of the Greek. Yehovah is God’s name pronounced J in English. As simple as that.
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  sinning against the Holy Spirit question

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  let's assume that the bible is god's word and the men who wrote it were borne along ( inspired ) by holy spirit.

  if one sets out to deliberately malign the bible, would that be considered a sin against the holy spirit?.

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  Fisherman

  Who knows since God is the final merciful judge but it is a reason to fear that God won’t forgive something we say.
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  My defense speech before the judicial committee

  by Disfellowshipped-Brother in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  dear brothers!.

  we have gathered here because, according to your claims, i have apostatized, and as elders, it is your duty to maintain the purity of the flock.

  it seems now that someone has contaminated it, apparently.

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  Fisherman

  “Brevity is the soul of wit.” —Bill Shakes

  Also, when you are accused of breaking rules you agreed to abide by, attacking the rules is not a defense, it is a red herring. If you don’t want to abide by the rules anymore, you can leave. If you want to stay, you need to follow the rules. My position on this post is not that JW is right or wrong, the same applies for any judicial proceedings. You don’t like the law all of a sudden anymore , too bad that is the law.
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  Were Bible writers flat earthers?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  job 26:7 he stretches out the northern sky over empty space, well should it be the southern that has empty space under it?.

  the north pole has the earth under it?.

  the south pole has empty space under it?.

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  Nic, all the miracles in the Bible are impossible from a scientific point of view.

  Seem.
  
  
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  Were Bible writers flat earthers?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  job 26:7 he stretches out the northern sky over empty space, well should it be the southern that has empty space under it?.

  the north pole has the earth under it?.

  the south pole has empty space under it?.

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  Fisherman

  Well this is fundamentally not true it’s the South Pole that has empty space underneath it

  No matter where you stand on earth, there is the earth under the sky.

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    “So the sun stood still and the moon did not move”
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  • It could be argued that the sun does not move in relation to the earth but if you read carefully, the verse only says the moon did not move. There is poetic argument in relation to the sun.
    “Jehovah does everything he pleases to do In heaven and on earth, in the seas and all the depths.”
  • A flying heavier than air plane seems to be a miracle so do fruit flies and walking on water, resurrections, parting the red sea. What would falsify the Bible though would be false stories such as atlas holding up the earth when the earth is actually floating in space.
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  Armageddon is just beginning

  by TheEndIsNear in

  1. social
  2. current

  do you want to know what is really behind the fake coronavirus pandemic, so-called vaccines and the war in ukraine?

  to understand current events, you must first learn the history.

  the world's biggest secret is that there have been tremendous global disasters in the past that decimated populations and caused the collapse of empires.

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  Fisherman

  If you are going to use Bible definitions, a generation begins when a person is 20 yo which means that a person 20yo in 1914 turns 120 in 2014. “Just like in the days (120y) of Noah…” So, time was up in 2014 and no gt.

  However, lets give it another 20 years and use 1934 as the starting point for 120 to arrive at 2034 to keep all hopes alive that the 1914 generation ( 120 years max ) like in the days of Noah will experience the gt.
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  Armageddon is just beginning

  by TheEndIsNear in

  1. social
  2. current

  do you want to know what is really behind the fake coronavirus pandemic, so-called vaccines and the war in ukraine?

  to understand current events, you must first learn the history.

  the world's biggest secret is that there have been tremendous global disasters in the past that decimated populations and caused the collapse of empires.

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  Fisherman

  time runs out in 2034