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  Are we living in the LAST DAYS?

  by Fisherman in

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  are we living in the prophetic last days that will climax into armageddon?

  if this is true then how long should it take?

  as jw saw it, wt compared timing to within a generation using 70 ad as a parallel.

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  some living would not see death before the end came.

  He was referring in poetic language to his transfiguration a few days later and possibly about John seeing the realization of the Bible fulfilled when John experienced writing the book of Revelation. Those men experienced it empirically. And don’t forget the realization of the destruction of Jerusalem that just so happened to his contemporaries just as Jesus predicted it would, from his definition of “shikkutz” to the Romans dashing Jewish children to pieces, the destruction of the Temple and more. Very real and I’m convinced.
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  Church buys GEICO Woodbury property for $27M

  by Rattigan350 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://libn.com/2023/01/09/church-buys-geico-woodbury-property-for-27m/.

  after a previous sale fell through, geico has sold its sprawling woodbury property for $27 million.

  the buyer for the 236,365-square-foot office building on 20 acres at 750 woodbury road is the christian congregation of jehovah’s witnesses.

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  the new owner of the property would be tax exempt

  There is more than one way to skin a cat.
  
  
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  Are we living in the LAST DAYS?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  are we living in the prophetic last days that will climax into armageddon?

  if this is true then how long should it take?

  as jw saw it, wt compared timing to within a generation using 70 ad as a parallel.

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  Are we living in the prophetic last days that will climax into Armageddon? If this is true then how long should it take? As JW saw it, wt compared timing to within a generation using 70 AD as a parallel. Last days shouldn’t last so long. There must be a limit.
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  JW elders TAUGHT to treat Higher Education as WRONG!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  in this jw training video, an elder gets deleted because his daughter has "stumbled" other jw's by pursuing higher education.

  🤣.

  @ 13.35 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u2ohrbdm-c.

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  If you want to be an Elder then you must be an example to the congregation and follow the direction from the gb. How can elder tell the sheep to pursue spiritual interests and support his daughter in going to college when wt counsels JW not to pursue a higher ed. Posted vid is proper.
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  Is WT Teachig on Hell Biblical?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i guess you could say jesus was the first christian, since he was the christ.

  and as the first christian, jesus spoke more about hell that any other biblical figure.

  but, he is also the figure that said that he didn't come to condemn the world, but to save it.

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  When will he grant immortality to the wicked so they can be tortured forever in the lake of fire?

  Life is a blessing not a curse. The wicked will then curse the Holy One day and night and will curse the blessedness of life day and night praying for death and the Blessed and Just and Loving God would be forced to listen idly. While you and God enjoy heavenly bliss—as cofty highlighted.
  
  
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  What would you change?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m agnostic so maybe the universe started by chance or by design.. if it was by design (hypothetically) and the bible is the designers word, and jws seem to be the closest to it, then what would be the largest things you would change?.

  here are a few ideas.

  -do away with the governing body thinking they are gods only channel.

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  what if they are preaching another gospel

  What if not.

  It is a personal conclusion like in the first century believing that JC was the Messiah and listening to him. If believing that wt is not God’s agency is inconsequential, it doesn’t matter.
  
  
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  What would you change?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m agnostic so maybe the universe started by chance or by design.. if it was by design (hypothetically) and the bible is the designers word, and jws seem to be the closest to it, then what would be the largest things you would change?.

  here are a few ideas.

  -do away with the governing body thinking they are gods only channel.

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  There are a things that are destined to change if the end doesn’t come —soon: the adjudication of sin, the role of females in the congregation, the elder, servant body class, the congregation management policy, FDS and the anointed definition and status, blood, hierarchy.

  Male and female anointed get to be kings in heaven but while on earth they are the same as everybody else. Also, those in positions of authority roles in the congregation have the purpose of management and spiritual assistance but not leadership. There is a harsh approach to management nowadays which will surely change.

  WT made the representation in the past of a special “channel of communication “ but later wt admitted in the literature that although HS is a factor in JW work that there is no special communication than everyone else’s inside the org. —So JW know that WT claims are real because JW have a real relationship with God but there is no position of special standing in comparison to everyone else.
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  What would you change?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m agnostic so maybe the universe started by chance or by design.. if it was by design (hypothetically) and the bible is the designers word, and jws seem to be the closest to it, then what would be the largest things you would change?.

  here are a few ideas.

  -do away with the governing body thinking they are gods only channel.

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  Stop insulting the intelligence of people by insisting that Adam and Eve were actual characters and that life hasn't existed on earth for millions of years.

  Cofty, can’t be done. Jesus validated their existence and AE are also linked to Bible chronology: “Male and female He created them.” So, millions of years appears to contradict the Bible. The ransom and death and human suffering are integrated with the historicity of A&E. Cannot have the Bible or JC who’s genealogy goes back to Adam -without them.
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  Nobody ever said JUH hovah or Jee sus until the 16th Century

  by Terry in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na22kkydprshttps://www.dictionary.com/e/j/".

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  Jesus because of the Greek. Yehovah is God’s name pronounced J in English. As simple as that.
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  sinning against the Holy Spirit question

  by enoughisenough in

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  let's assume that the bible is god's word and the men who wrote it were borne along ( inspired ) by holy spirit.

  if one sets out to deliberately malign the bible, would that be considered a sin against the holy spirit?.

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  Who knows since God is the final merciful judge but it is a reason to fear that God won’t forgive something we say.