think about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.
why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?
as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.
AS
Clearly, having the means or power to do something does not mean one has authority. Yet having authority, clearly does not mean one has to use it. But that is not conslusive proof that Jesus reign began in the first century. COJ presents his considerable arguments in his book (I did not reject them), the wts presents its line of reasoning in the Rev book.
Rev12 :10 seems to be refering to a future event.
think about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.
why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?
as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.
Although the scripture says that all things have been subjected to Jesus, in reality they are not. Jesus' enemies still rule.
think about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.
why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?
as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.
There is a seperation work going on, Jessus will judge people based on their response to the good news.
think about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.
why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?
as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.
It was six men of Indostan,
To learning much inclined,
Who went to see the Elephant
(Though all of them were blind),
That each by observation
Might satisfy his mind.
So, oft in theologic wars
The disputants, I ween,
Rail on in utter ignorance
Of what each other mean;
And prate about an Elephant
Not one of them has seen!
think about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.
why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?
as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.
What did Jesus mean really? I don't know. Have to ask him to find out. When Jesus said that all authority.... what did he mean? Did he mean at that very moment, did he mean after his resurrection, did he mean in the future? I don't know. I know what the wts teaches. If the devil is the ruler of the world, then does Jesus have all authority. Death still rules, how does Jesus have all authority? For 2 thousand years after Jesus' death people still ruling. Seems as if these entities are exercising their power derived from their authority.
Here come the explanations.. from interpreters that read what other translators and interpreters wrote.
think about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.
why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?
as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.
Flash,
I did not mean to be sarcastic or cynical by my comments on your post on generation. You can believe what you like. What I meant to get across is that it is hard to abandon the hope of living in a paradise earth and never dying in ones lifetime. My opinion is though, that if you do not know something for sure because God did not speak to you on it, why give people a false hope about something that is only a view and not a reality, and then when the generation belief did not prove to be what was expected, that is that the generation that saw 1914 is 70 or 80 years in length, using the Bible to define generation, you change the definition of generation. There is a glimer of hope there so people do not let go, but at the smae time, another teaching that we should not speculate on dates indication that the end can come in 50 years or at an undetermined time, but at the same tineme people are allowed to believe or to entertain the hope of in their lifetime. Is that dishonest? Things start crumbling apart as people start to realize that the teaching regarding the length of generation failed. The teaching is false because people normally live 70 or 80 years. If the end comes in 100 or 120 years, the teaching gave people a false hope because the average person would die and yet was taught to belief to entertain a false hope. It may make no difference to you, you are still young, so am I, but what about the older ones that worked so hard and gave up so much and when its time to get paid: Not today, And then comes another beautiful explanation of generation. The bottom line is: Not getting paid. People get angry at this, and I don't blame them. If I saw your view about generation on a wt mag, I would be very angry. In all honesty, how many jws can digest the new generation definition in connection with 1914?
I understand don’t leave the wts and stuff like that but if one has the history of telling people that they are going to get paid but time and time and half a time again, no money, some workers will stop believing you,(not God), not matter what beautiful opinions or explanations you have for not paying.
And what I mean to say by not paying is, that you led people to belive that they would be rewarded, and what I mean to say by you is, not you, but the ones that led people to believe the doctrine.
think about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.
why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?
as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.
3w, I think the reason people leave is because they get angry, either because they are harmed or believe that they were harmed by individuals in thw wts or by the wts.
think about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.
why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?
as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.
AS:
I finished reading COC. Previously, I only read portions. I also got Penton's books. I have only skimmed through them. Does anyone remmember the g article that ammended the info on earthquakes?, or did I miss that post?
think about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.
why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?
as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.
flash
Of course they are your own comments.
think about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.
why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?
as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.
flash,
The 1995wt article from the slave does not blame the gb and does not cite the reasons you show. The article says that Gds people have speculated as to the length of a generation... The wt mag then defines a generation in connection with 1914. That explanation was hard to swallow to say the least. If jws ever see the ridiculous argumentation you have posted in print by the wts, (at least those that have a little common sense or have been through previous failed dates) they will abandon the movement if they don't die first of laughter or stomach problems and colitis. What an abuse of God' Word, forcing it to defend a false Interpretation. Have the honesty to admit when you are wrong. These tactics do not go unnoticed.
