Can someone explain why the articles in the g mag that are shown as evidence to show that the wts had nice things to say about the UN. According to the links I cited in my previous post, they show the UN citing g mag articles. Can eanyone expalin if this is a coincidence or on purpose.
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Great news. The WTS did not commit spiritual prostitution with UN.
by thirdwitness inhttp://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/
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Does the society keep records of all JW's past and present?
by hambeak ini was a very active jw pionered ms etc.
i voluntarily left the org.
and was never df'd to my knowledge.
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nameless unwashed : meaning has no written record as long as that person does not get into trouble. If a person gets into trouble, thats another story.
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Great news. The WTS did not commit spiritual prostitution with UN.
by thirdwitness inhttp://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/
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Fisherman
I clicked on Kennison's link and it contains a UN document citing an awake magazine with apparent favorable stuff about the UN. I was dismayed to see that. I thought before sseingthe document that it was only a coincidence that the wts wrote seemingly positive articles about the UN. Is there any substance to the alegations that the wts intentionally wrote positive articles to the UN or that the wts wrote suchlike articles to get something from the UN and did not do so freely and inocently without any other motive. Any proof?
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Great news. The WTS did not commit spiritual prostitution with UN.
by thirdwitness inhttp://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/
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Fisherman
Kenneson:
Thank you kindly for thr brant Jones Links that you have posted Very informative.
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Insurance news letter from January 2004 re:hiring JW's
by schne_belly ini hope this is ok to post this news article.
its an insurance/news letter that i purchased online.
i am thinking of distributing to local hospital human resource departments to inform them of their need to ask questions when hiring people with religious views that may affect their work.
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Moshe:Jw/wts have the reputation of being the greatest freedom fighters on earth. Jw attorneys fight in the highest courts on earth, and win. WTS is reputed to have won more Supreme Court cases than any entity in the history of the USA. WTS hires many attorneys that are not jw and many non jw attorneys represent many jws on relgious issues and secular matter. Please understand that the actions of on jw person as crazy as it may seem does not represent the thinking of the majority. People do whatever they want but are fanatically religious when it suits them in all religions.
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Insurance news letter from January 2004 re:hiring JW's
by schne_belly ini hope this is ok to post this news article.
its an insurance/news letter that i purchased online.
i am thinking of distributing to local hospital human resource departments to inform them of their need to ask questions when hiring people with religious views that may affect their work.
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Fisherman
Rawdata:I do not know what you mean in your post but I know this. Any JC written record in kept in the a little room in the back in a SEaled (funny) envelope. Free for the looking to anyone tht has the key Sometimes, els do gossip to their wives and talk about certain things to other elds. An angry eld that leaves the wt knows alot of personal stuff about a lot of people. If a br leaves one h and goes to another c, a letter follows. Private information is in the wrong hands all of the time. Look how many els have left on this site alone. Look at all of the stuff that is floating around on the net. Also els that leave and or are angry can talk to others about what they know. But even els that do not leave need to tell other els to "assist bros". IT never goes away. Who wants personal stuff floating around? Who wants to feel like the repentant one for the rest of their lives having people smirking at em all of the time. Marked for life. There are benefits though, the wts will never betray you and you will always be under the l umbrella of the wts. The wts does need the info to help you in some cases,. Since the org is not perfect and not infallible admitedly people do get harmed by other imperfect people. Unless things have changed, again, anyone having access can read private info. If he comes in with a little camera he can take pics of any document he wants.
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Insurance news letter from January 2004 re:hiring JW's
by schne_belly ini hope this is ok to post this news article.
its an insurance/news letter that i purchased online.
i am thinking of distributing to local hospital human resource departments to inform them of their need to ask questions when hiring people with religious views that may affect their work.
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Fisherman
Minister Amos, there is a growing problem now with friends not wanting to reveal sinful acts to the elds because of privacy concerns as you have described. Some friends are oblivious to all and don't worry, but there are others that realize that if confidential information fell into the wrong hands, it would cause them injury. Another problem is that, (of course if you do not get into trouble you do not have a problem) friends do not want information on religious matters that they have volunteered and or church proceedings involving sins, recorded. There is a legitimate defense for not going to the eld but it won't keep you from being df. But it is a valid defense: "BRS, I have heard that many xelders and elds,and btlts and COs are on the internet going public with sensitive material, even wrtiing books. I also know that if I seek your help it will become part of my written record, That information can possible fall into the wrong hands as other material that is said to be available on the internet evidently has. If that was to happen with my privacy, I would be harmed. Sure, I could sue, but that cannot undue the harm that I would suffer. Perhaps you are able to personally guarantee that anything that we discuss on this matter will not fall into the wrong hands. I am seeking a 30 million dollar bond from every individual involved in this matter or any entity or individual having access to the information, If you are able to do that, I will cooperate."
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Insurance news letter from January 2004 re:hiring JW's
by schne_belly ini hope this is ok to post this news article.
its an insurance/news letter that i purchased online.
i am thinking of distributing to local hospital human resource departments to inform them of their need to ask questions when hiring people with religious views that may affect their work.
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Fisherman
" If your brother comits a sin, go lay bear his sin between you and him alone" That is the prtocol taught by the wts. The snitch did not do that first.
But there is another problem, medical treatment for vd is not sufficient evidence to establish wrongdoing unless the medical record contained other info and the snitch revealed that confidential information. But even then, it is still not sufficient because a doctor's medical opinion is not fact, neither are lab findings, nor do they establish wrongdoing and neither is what is written on a doctor's medical record. A medical record does not establish wrondoing and neither does medical treatment. Abortion is another issue. I am surprise that no law suit followed. I would have sued fo sure, the snitch and the doctor. I do not think that a jc would be formed on the mouth of one witness unless the alleged sinner confessed if aproached. There is not enough evidence here without a confession. But there is damage to a person's reputation and privacy if someone revaled confidential information to others. The issue here is that confidential rights were violated. The remedy, a Court judgement against the snitch and against the doctor's insurance company in the millions. Is this a criminal act too? Does anyone know?
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The Gentiles Times Reconsidered--Again but this Time By Using the Bible
by thirdwitness inthink about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.
why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?
as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.
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In a contest, it is the referee that declares who is the winner, not the fighters or their advocates.
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The Gentiles Times Reconsidered--Again but this Time By Using the Bible
by thirdwitness inthink about this: if seven times mean only 7 years then daniel could have simply said 7 years.
why does daniel specifically use the word 'times' rather than years?
as we have already shown daniel used the word for 7 times instead of 7 years.
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Alan
I think that it was you that wrote the article on God's Justice, no? After reading that article, I understood that God is just by definition and not because we can relate to or understand God's justice. That is why when I saw again the literature pictureso of people with silly smiles on their faces as God destroys humanity in the background, including jws own sons or daughters, I understood how silly those smiles were and I realized that I just cannot understand. I did not see it like that before when looking at the pictures.
But I have to take sides with God because he is the life giver. But if I am given the authority to do so,I will plead for humanity. Perhaps God can change ther dna or do something to give people a break. I have heard people say: Oh well, God is going to kill my son in Armageddon, but I have many SPIRITUAL children. How can a parent say stupid things like that? I dont know. Imagine that?
I have read Af's articles and he has a point. If the person reading Af articles just stopped and thought instead of becoming defensive he would be able to relate to what Af is saying. Who am I to judge God, that is not the point but I ceratinly can relate to AF line of thought.
AS AF says the torture and murder of a perfect innocent man is not enough payment?. "no that may apply later depends on if you endure to the end and how much jumping around you did." and the heartache and thousand natural shock that flesh is heir too and death too."you deserve that because your a sinner" You think people deserve to be born deaf blind, natural disaster (blame satan).
Afs articles are great.