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KNOW ANY JWS INVOLVED IN DUBIOUS BUSINESS PRACTICES?

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Fisherman

How do you define dubious?

All business practices are dubious to a degree in the USA.

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Warren Schroeder from Bethel on Freddy, Kline and the apostate books!

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I never ever heard a Beheleite ever doing that to a fellow. Beisdes, promotions or job changes were not because of seniority. Some bros would stay in the same job for decades while others,even newboys may be given a great job. Why? There were a number of reasons

In BRooklyn B. if you new some heavy, he could get you out of of real trouble that a young bro could get into and could also get you a job change. To be a floor overseer or to get a job in dipatch or another desirable job, you had to be spiritual, you had to be liked, and you had to qualify for the job. Because of personality or not being liked, many btls never prgressed in bEThel.

SEniority counted to get the better room at roomm bidding time, but not the sole factor to be considered for 'promotions"

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Warren Schroeder from Bethel on Freddy, Kline and the apostate books!

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Fisherman

Who is the barber?

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Warren Schroeder from Bethel on Freddy, Kline and the apostate books!

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I never was able to break free from the "production Mode" and the Institutional mode. Before going to Bethel, I approached thing and handled things differently but in Bethel you get into a bethel way of living and working, as Randy put it also Adrenaline.

A friend is someone that is loyal to YOU, not to the government or an organization. Fellows in the wts are not truly friends. It was a lot of fun meeting bros from all over the US and working and socializing together in the Bethel enviroment but they are not real friends.

I think that working for the wts has enriched my life in a unique way that I would not have experienced elsewhere. Living in Betlhe was not easy, under a lot of pressure and it was just hard but looking back at them days I do not regret it ;I have good memeories. Thts how Ifeel about it.

A lot Bhelites are angry but there were good moments too.

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Warren Schroeder from Bethel on Freddy, Kline and the apostate books!

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Randy,

I do not regret going to Bethel. Im glad I was a part of it a that I could contribute something,I did what I believd was the best that I coud do at that time. I remmeber that you were an important bro and your contribution was valued. I do not feel that your work at bethel was a waste of time

I would never have gone to Bethel or endured what I did for money. I believed that I was doing it for Jehovah at that time. I believe that was your motive too. How we see things now, do not diminish the merits of our gift to God.

Randy, this website is also a valuable contribution in my opinion to truth and freedom. Without passing judgement on the wts, the forum is helpfull to jws to get a broader view on the way things really are. Also, active jws would not have considred hearing RFs side,and aproaching wts teachings and wts justice from an analytical perspective. Also, without this website inactive jws have no way of knwing whats going on. One can express how one reaaly feels about or how one reaaly views jw policy or teaching. That is not possible in the congregation. Thanks

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Warren Schroeder from Bethel on Freddy, Kline and the apostate books!

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Doctrinal issues and chronology didnt really bother me or affect my faith. People left Bethel I observed because they had rather be doing something else or got angry. Sometimes a bro applied to have a siister come in after marriage and if they were denied, some brothers got angry and letft the org for that. Back in them days some bros postponed the marriage and later reapplied and I know of cases where the sis was later accpeted, but the wts later stopped that because it was not fair to the sister no postpone or call of a marriage.

Families back home, not cut out for an institutional way of life, or feeling that one did not get the recognition or job, or gettiing angry because of some injustice done.

In the world, one can fight back and compete somehow or find a short cut or ride or do things the easy way, not in the Bhouse, there, one was at the mercy of those who rule. I dont mean the Christ. I mean people that impose their will or their sense of justice or their way of doing things on you. In Bethel you just had to take it and swallow

One can put up with things up to a certain point, but when a man gets fed up whether he is right or wrong, that is it, so bros leave bethel, and even the org, because there comes a point when one cannot tolerate something anymore no matter what the cost. And there are things that a person just cannot forgive. I do not mean that one cannot forgive a person who has done wrong, one can but one cannot be able to forgive the wrong that was done without some justice, so people may leave bethel and may levave the org for these reasons That is what I have obeserved and deduced from cases that I have seen.

It is a waste of time expressing a concern to the wts. They wil do whatever they want and thats that. One cannot express sincere views or feeling to other jws either without risk being reported or being chastized, One has to be a hypocrite and say things that one does not belive or be counselled or ones spirituality being challenged. Is that what Jesus Christ had in mind?

At least in this forum one can let off some steam and the wts can see how bros REALLY feel.

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Warren Schroeder from Bethel on Freddy, Kline and the apostate books!

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I didnt see how bethelites liked going to the Gilead graduattion in upper New York. Man, I did not want to go . It lasted a long time. I couldnt wait for it to end. I gave my tickets to bethelite friends that had their family over in excahnge for theirs at a latter date but the wts prohibited doing that later on. Hours and hours of sitting down and listenning to lectures. I had work at the asseblies so the time went by fast there. It takes a lot of discipline to sit throuh hours and hours and hours of talks, and we did it back then

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Warren Schroeder from Bethel on Freddy, Kline and the apostate books!

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GymBob,

Recently, I heard news about Norm Brekke. He is still in Blyn NY He was cong overseer until last year he let someone else preside. I saw him a couple of years ago too. Short stubby bro, he looked the same only older But you would recognize him. Who was PO in your cong while you were at Bethel?

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