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  What is more important life or justice?

  by Fisherman in

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  the outrage of injustice cries out for justice, vengeance, vindictiveness, retaliation, getting even -at any cost -even life.

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  Fisherman

  A law degree.

  'The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers'. ... Shakespeare

  I would hate to be a lawyer or a judge if "all hell breaks loose" in any country.
  
  
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  What is more important life or justice?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the outrage of injustice cries out for justice, vengeance, vindictiveness, retaliation, getting even -at any cost -even life.

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  Fisherman

  Seems to be the reason behind executions, murder, war, why God permits wickedness, Isis, etc..
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  What is more important life or justice?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the outrage of injustice cries out for justice, vengeance, vindictiveness, retaliation, getting even -at any cost -even life.

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  Fisherman

  The outrage of injustice cries out for justice, vengeance, vindictiveness, retaliation, getting even -at any cost -even life.
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  A philosophical question .... what does the word God mean to you personally ?

  by Finkelstein in

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  to myself it means to seek knowledge and understanding of are selves and the world in which we live.. unfortunately history has shown whenever one tries to connect to god and of his knowledge through men who say they themselves are connected to god through spiritual wifi ie.

  gb members of the jehovah's witnesses for example, one usually ends up finding a accumulation of only man's acquired knowledge.

  over thousands of years of trying to connect to a god(s) for help and answers, mankind has eventually relinquished himself to seeking answers through scientific investigative acquired knowledge of the world in which we live in.

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  Fisherman

  I'm sorry, you have totally contradicted yourself.

  'Without evidence you just cannot know can you?' I did not say the evidence does not exist.

  Not too long ago it became known that an innocent man went to jail for 25 years or so. There existed evidence at the time of his conviction to exonerate him only that they refused to look at it because they were convinced that the man was guilty. When they finally decided to measure the evidence 25 years later, they saw his innocence. -Not to say that the disgraced ones that suppressed the evidence continued to advocate guilt inspite of the facts. The evidence existed had they wanted to look.
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  A philosophical question .... what does the word God mean to you personally ?

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to myself it means to seek knowledge and understanding of are selves and the world in which we live.. unfortunately history has shown whenever one tries to connect to god and of his knowledge through men who say they themselves are connected to god through spiritual wifi ie.

  gb members of the jehovah's witnesses for example, one usually ends up finding a accumulation of only man's acquired knowledge.

  over thousands of years of trying to connect to a god(s) for help and answers, mankind has eventually relinquished himself to seeking answers through scientific investigative acquired knowledge of the world in which we live in.

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  Fisherman

  No, you cannot know,

  You can.
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  A philosophical question .... what does the word God mean to you personally ?

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to myself it means to seek knowledge and understanding of are selves and the world in which we live.. unfortunately history has shown whenever one tries to connect to god and of his knowledge through men who say they themselves are connected to god through spiritual wifi ie.

  gb members of the jehovah's witnesses for example, one usually ends up finding a accumulation of only man's acquired knowledge.

  over thousands of years of trying to connect to a god(s) for help and answers, mankind has eventually relinquished himself to seeking answers through scientific investigative acquired knowledge of the world in which we live in.

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  Fisherman

  I think you'll find billions of people are hanging onto an illusion....

  Without evidence you just cannot know can you? And believing that reality is an an ilusiion does not make it so because you have not measured the evidence.
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  A philosophical question .... what does the word God mean to you personally ?

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to myself it means to seek knowledge and understanding of are selves and the world in which we live.. unfortunately history has shown whenever one tries to connect to god and of his knowledge through men who say they themselves are connected to god through spiritual wifi ie.

  gb members of the jehovah's witnesses for example, one usually ends up finding a accumulation of only man's acquired knowledge.

  over thousands of years of trying to connect to a god(s) for help and answers, mankind has eventually relinquished himself to seeking answers through scientific investigative acquired knowledge of the world in which we live in.

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  Fisherman

  I think it's just something/someone to hang all are hopes, fears, and desires on.

  One cannot hang on to an illusion. When uncertainty comes.. one lets go. -But not if it is solid.
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  The wonderful things you hear AFTER you step down as an elder!

  by redpilltwice in

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  2. experiences

  well, well, that was quite a heartfelt welcome on this site four days ago.

  thank you all for the encouraging replies.

  one of them was this one from magnum: "hey now, don't just pop your head in and disappear.

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  Fisherman

  A deleted elder does not hear any wonderful things now from fellow JW, to the contrary, now he is viewed less than respected and he feels it when any fellow JW now speak with him as a non elder. That is not wonderful at all, it is a "less than respected" aura that surrounds the ex elder even if he persists to act like an elder he looses respect from everyone. And it is something that he must bear. It ain't easy. As far as doubts from the JW expressing it to ex elders or elders is like preaching to the choir. They know.
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  Cappytan has made a video. Here is the link

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsbfnzrbiqq

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  Fisherman

  Outstanding speaking skills! -Thanks to the theo M school.
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  A philosophical question .... what does the word God mean to you personally ?

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to myself it means to seek knowledge and understanding of are selves and the world in which we live.. unfortunately history has shown whenever one tries to connect to god and of his knowledge through men who say they themselves are connected to god through spiritual wifi ie.

  gb members of the jehovah's witnesses for example, one usually ends up finding a accumulation of only man's acquired knowledge.

  over thousands of years of trying to connect to a god(s) for help and answers, mankind has eventually relinquished himself to seeking answers through scientific investigative acquired knowledge of the world in which we live in.

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  Fisherman

  Being angry with God or not wanting him to exist does not change anything. -But if you found evidence of God, would it not put your mind at ease to know? You would never loose your mind if reality failed you, if everything that you trusted in turned out to be a fallacy, even if doom seemed to be the only destiny, you would always have this only reality -that you know- to base your thinking on. You would realize that you are not in control. Not by your efforts, not cause and effect, is the reason things happen. Your mind could just let go. You could have peace of mind free of anxiety and leave things in God's hands -IF you found the evidence. But more than the evidence is needed. After a time one takes the evidence for granted just as a blind man that gains sight takes his vision for granted and focuses then on all of the other heartaches and natural shocks that flesh is heir to and looses sight of the prize.