they didn't dismiss the case
Hmmm, isn't that what not granting the Summary Judgement is all about?
court denies summary judgement for laurel jehovah's witnesses congregation.
a motion for summary judgement is denied in a case against the laurel congregation of jehovah's witnesses and some individuals over child abuse reporting issues.a lawyer for the congregation maintained that elders were exempted from reporting requirements under a state law because of clergy privilege and confidentiality.the case resulted from allegations that elders did not report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were members of the jehovah's witnesses congregation.. download the court opinion here.
http://courts.delaware.gov/opinions/download.aspx?id=235880.
they didn't dismiss the case
Hmmm, isn't that what not granting the Summary Judgement is all about?
court denies summary judgement for laurel jehovah's witnesses congregation.
a motion for summary judgement is denied in a case against the laurel congregation of jehovah's witnesses and some individuals over child abuse reporting issues.a lawyer for the congregation maintained that elders were exempted from reporting requirements under a state law because of clergy privilege and confidentiality.the case resulted from allegations that elders did not report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were members of the jehovah's witnesses congregation.. download the court opinion here.
http://courts.delaware.gov/opinions/download.aspx?id=235880.
Elders for the WTBTS are not acting within the law by using the Clergy/penitent privilege. IT DOES NOT APPLY TO THEM. -DD
You mean the Court is wrong because that is what they decided in their "Opinion". They get to decide, and they determined that IT DOES APPLY TO THEM.
My post correctly represents the Court's decision.
court denies summary judgement for laurel jehovah's witnesses congregation.
a motion for summary judgement is denied in a case against the laurel congregation of jehovah's witnesses and some individuals over child abuse reporting issues.a lawyer for the congregation maintained that elders were exempted from reporting requirements under a state law because of clergy privilege and confidentiality.the case resulted from allegations that elders did not report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were members of the jehovah's witnesses congregation.. download the court opinion here.
http://courts.delaware.gov/opinions/download.aspx?id=235880.
court denies summary judgement for laurel jehovah's witnesses congregation.
a motion for summary judgement is denied in a case against the laurel congregation of jehovah's witnesses and some individuals over child abuse reporting issues.a lawyer for the congregation maintained that elders were exempted from reporting requirements under a state law because of clergy privilege and confidentiality.the case resulted from allegations that elders did not report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were members of the jehovah's witnesses congregation.. download the court opinion here.
http://courts.delaware.gov/opinions/download.aspx?id=235880.
The JW do not have clergy...or is that doublespeak too?
What term do you like to tell the Court to use to describe JW elders acting in their appointed capacity? Choose whatever term you like. But in-spite of what you like, the related law protects JW.
so... bro flodin puts poison onto the first loaf of bread and says that this pictures someone "sinning against the holy spirit".
he then puts the bread into the trash can stating that jehovah completely discards anyone "sinning against the holy spirit"... meaning they cannot ever be forgiven...he says that the pharisees "sinned against the holy spirit" because they denied indisputable evidence of the operation of jehovah's holy spirit displayed by jesus... therefore jehovah would completely discard them... no way back for them.. fast forward a little... we have the bible character stephen...acts 6:8 says: now stephen, full of divine favor and power, was performing great wonders and signs among the people.so stephen was showing indisputable evidence of the operation of jehovah's holy spirit.now we come to the bible character paul (saul)... he was a pharisee.paul would have seen stephen in action... witnessing the indisputable evidence of the operation of jehovah's holy spirit first hand!yet paul not only waged war against all christians but he personally approved the killing (stoning) of stephen.according to the bread illustration paul should have been discarded by jehovah at this point for "sinning against the holy spirit"... he would have been put in the trash can... no way back at all...but what happened according to the bible?
jesus appeared to him on the road to damascus... he became one of the most zealous apostles in bible history with jehovah's full support!so what on earth is the bread illustration all about?
According to the bread illustration Paul should indeed have been discarded by Jah
Take it up with Jehovah who forgave Paul and condemned the Pharisees to Gehena; And learn to listen. The video states at the very beginning that it is God that reads the hearts. Really, it does.
court denies summary judgement for laurel jehovah's witnesses congregation.
a motion for summary judgement is denied in a case against the laurel congregation of jehovah's witnesses and some individuals over child abuse reporting issues.a lawyer for the congregation maintained that elders were exempted from reporting requirements under a state law because of clergy privilege and confidentiality.the case resulted from allegations that elders did not report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were members of the jehovah's witnesses congregation.. download the court opinion here.
http://courts.delaware.gov/opinions/download.aspx?id=235880.
Thank you OC for this great post!
JW clergy are acting within the law when they do not report child abusers to the police in a Minister Penitent relationship -as lawyers too also enjoy this immunity with their clients. In this particular case, the Court decided that the law only applies specifically in a Minister Penitent setting as the Court defined what that setting means and in the related case the Court felt that it did not meet such specific conditions. Hey, lets force the lawyers to turn in their clients and lets have the Police invade anyone's house they suspect is a molester. Forget about privacy and the US Constitution and force everyone that suspects of anyone being a molester go to the Police or else -or better yet, get rid of the JW.
so... bro flodin puts poison onto the first loaf of bread and says that this pictures someone "sinning against the holy spirit".
he then puts the bread into the trash can stating that jehovah completely discards anyone "sinning against the holy spirit"... meaning they cannot ever be forgiven...he says that the pharisees "sinned against the holy spirit" because they denied indisputable evidence of the operation of jehovah's holy spirit displayed by jesus... therefore jehovah would completely discard them... no way back for them.. fast forward a little... we have the bible character stephen...acts 6:8 says: now stephen, full of divine favor and power, was performing great wonders and signs among the people.so stephen was showing indisputable evidence of the operation of jehovah's holy spirit.now we come to the bible character paul (saul)... he was a pharisee.paul would have seen stephen in action... witnessing the indisputable evidence of the operation of jehovah's holy spirit first hand!yet paul not only waged war against all christians but he personally approved the killing (stoning) of stephen.according to the bread illustration paul should have been discarded by jehovah at this point for "sinning against the holy spirit"... he would have been put in the trash can... no way back at all...but what happened according to the bible?
jesus appeared to him on the road to damascus... he became one of the most zealous apostles in bible history with jehovah's full support!so what on earth is the bread illustration all about?
According to the Bread illustration Paul should have been discarded by Jehovah at this point for "sinning against the holy spirit
Not according to God who is the judge. Paul was spiritually blind when he persecuted Christians. That was not the case with the Pharisees that Jesus referred to as sinning without forgiveness who spoke evil against the Holy Spirit after seeing it work.
yes friends it is too late for most of you to return to jehovah's org.
based on the new garlic bread parable in this month's broadcast with the illustration using loaves of bread.
it is obvious that the doors of the arc has been closed shut by jehovah's hand for some of us.. according to the new parable that can be found on jw tv.
(It just dawned on me how old brett looks in the video.) In all fairness though, the video is not actually about it being too late to return to Jehovah.
The garbage in the video alludes to Gehenah and WT says that only JHV sees the heart not the WT and it is he that can put someone there not the WT, but the garbage (gehena) is a warning because the danger to be thrown there exists -at least that is what Jesus says in the NT not the WT-and the NT gives specific examples of such sin.The sin is rejecting evidence from God, his Holy Spirit which was evident as Jesus showed, namely the maliciousness of the Pharisees, etc.The exact same evidence exists today. Anyone who fights against God's Holy Spirit, solid proof from God must answer to God, face Gehena. That is what the video is about. I may add that Jehovah is a God that is very peculiar about vengeance, particularly towards those who make trouble for his friends. The Bible records how Jehovah curses and plagues and becomes at war with and even exterminates any entity that threatens or causes any harm whatsoever to his friends. That is from the Bible not from the WT,
the outrage of injustice cries out for justice, vengeance, vindictiveness, retaliation, getting even -at any cost -even life.
A law degree.
'The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers'. ... Shakespeare
I would hate to be a lawyer or a judge if "all hell breaks loose" in any country.
the outrage of injustice cries out for justice, vengeance, vindictiveness, retaliation, getting even -at any cost -even life.