Posts by Fisherman

Cofty posts interesting and thought provoking articles but his writing skills are sub average to average. There is nothing exceptional about how he writes or about what he writes, ordinary stuff except that he does a lot of work to present the info he posts.But you dont't need anything more than a dictionary to understand the meaning of some word that cofty chooses to use in his posts. I suggest that you get a phone app and enrich your vocabulary.

In spite of that I strongly disagree with their views, If you want a template of masterful use of the English language on this Forum, read Marvin Shilmer's posts or TD's posts.

-Or you can try to punch your way out of a watchtower magazine.

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This thread is for proof that God exists

by juandefiero in

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however, i haven't found any evidence to support that belief.. have you?

if so please, show me the evidence that god exists, and i will believe along with you.. criteria:.

(1) you must specify which god you are talking about;.

Fisherman

Why do you think the supernatural power is loving?

There is more than one way to answer your question.

I can tell you to read some some book.

I can tell you that your questions is stupid and so are you.

I can link the WTS teachings and if you disagree to tell you TOO BAD!

I can tell you that the Bible defines God as being loving and if you disagree, too bad!

I can tell you that I believe that Jehovah is loving because he allows you and people like you that do not believe he exists, do not appreciate his gifts, and do not like him, to breathe his sweet air, eat his delicious food, sleep in his beautiful cozy house, even to the point where such people make trouble, harm and kill people that love him and serve him.

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This thread is for proof that God exists

by juandefiero in

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friends

however, i haven't found any evidence to support that belief.. have you?

if so please, show me the evidence that god exists, and i will believe along with you.. criteria:.

(1) you must specify which god you are talking about;.

Fisherman

Do we all have to believe the same, or is it just that some people get off on putting the beliefs of others down?

Itis not improper to expose someone's deceitfulness or to discredit someone and it is not improper to show how ridiculous a belief is and it is not improper to challenge someone's belief and request that they support their views and it is not improper to debunk erroneous thinking and fallacious conclusion with logical arguments and other evidence and it is not improper to ridicule assertions with established facts that show otherwise, but if a persons is just fixated in believing in something religiously in-spite of being show facts that mythesize his position, it gets to the point that one has to move on and any further discussion with such deluded person in pointless (asssuming that you put facts where your mouth is sort of speak). On the other hand liking your views more that someone elses do not invalidate the views you do not like and neither does views disprove views -this is common sense. BUt there is nothing wrong to have your views about someone else's views either.

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Is the WT’s Paradise Earth doctrine a delusion?

by deegee in

the wt’s teaching that humans will live forever on a paradise earth will necessitate that given that there will be no more death, then immortal humans will have to be relocated to other planets in order to prevent the earth from becoming overpopulated.. so how many habitable, earth-like planets are there?more and more habitable, earth-like planets would have to become available on a continuous, never-ending basis ad infinitum as mankind’s population grows given that there will be no more death.. the longevity/sustainability of life on these planets will be limited by the fact that the sun serving these planets will eventually die:https://shar.es/1cko6n.

http://www.space.com/22437-main-sequence-stars.html#sthash.ejbt1xrz.dpuf.

so immortal humans will have to keep moving from planet to planet.

Fisherman

For me, the most depressing part of living on Paradise earth was the belief that after the 1,000 year reign of Christ, Satan would be once again let loose into the world once again for yet another test of humans and unknown numbers would fall under his influence and have to be destroyed. What kind of madness is this? Humans exist to pass tests?

(-First you got to make it into the 1k as if that wasn't hard enough.)

I feel the same way but I also feel that some people are just plain mean and selfish and should get what is coming to them.

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This thread is for proof that God exists

by juandefiero in

jw
friends

however, i haven't found any evidence to support that belief.. have you?

if so please, show me the evidence that god exists, and i will believe along with you.. criteria:.

(1) you must specify which god you are talking about;.

Fisherman

Given the Lord of the Rings

The Lord of the Rings is a fiction fantasy book, the author of Lord of the Rings makes no claims that the book is non fiction The Bible contains legislation, history, poetry, music, wisdom, prophecy, and eyewitness testimony from many non fictional and historical characters about the existence of Jehovah and more. Although the Biible is falsifiable it has not been debunked unlike the book of Mormon and other books

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This thread is for proof that God exists

by juandefiero in

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friends

however, i haven't found any evidence to support that belief.. have you?

if so please, show me the evidence that god exists, and i will believe along with you.. criteria:.

(1) you must specify which god you are talking about;.

Fisherman

The true "eureka" moments might be as close to the divine we could get, or passing on life and seeing and hearing a newborn.

Given the BIble, it records miracles and God's control and manipulation of all of the universe and laws; hence God transcends space and time and reality exerting his influence over everything that is real. WE could get closer to God than thatt It is something you must experience for yourself. What I meant to say is that the universe has measurable properties and predictions can be made from those measurements and those results are true while God cuncurrently exerts his infulence over the universe without affecting those results. God can remarkably transcend time and space and reality. The greatest pleasure any man can experience is not physical preasure but a real realtionship with God.

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This thread is for proof that God exists

by juandefiero in

jw
friends

however, i haven't found any evidence to support that belief.. have you?

if so please, show me the evidence that god exists, and i will believe along with you.. criteria:.

(1) you must specify which god you are talking about;.

Fisherman

a property of the void, and to my thinking that word implies the same realm that existed before,

If this void always existed with these particles, then the void with the fluctuations are an eternal reality but I need to see proof of that to beliive it (not from you)

The only thing that makes sense to me is an inert nothing, changed and exploded into the universe the substance of which chose a drive that made our universe possible to exist as it does.

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This thread is for proof that God exists

by juandefiero in

jw
friends

however, i haven't found any evidence to support that belief.. have you?

if so please, show me the evidence that god exists, and i will believe along with you.. criteria:.

(1) you must specify which god you are talking about;.

Fisherman

Prologos, I am only posting my views here as I see it. I have not compared all of my views to known facts., so it is only as I see things.

It seems to me that if the energy of the universe is not zero then the system is not at equilibrium and that creates a lot of problems. Another thing to consider if the energy of the universe is greater than zero is where did that energy come from? Creationist would erroneously conclude that such energy is proof that God pushed the button but it would appear to falsify the Bible's information that it was by God's will that things were created which makes sense in a zero energy universe (given that God created the universe) -but what do I know except that I am convinced that God exists.

I have done work in a laboratory more than once and it is given that that God does not exist in science which simply means scientific realism is all we've got -in science.

And that makes sense because science would be pointless and reality would be a lie if we could not have faith in the world around us -not to say that we should not give up hope or ask God for help -except that is he not a variable in scientific results..

I do believe in God more than I believe in cause and effect of things but I do not believe that God is a measurable variable that could be found in a scientific equation of the working universe; however, I believe that God can be perceptible to the senses more so than scientific realism as a factor in our lives -but that is only what I see, just my view on things, my position.