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  Generation expiry date?

  by pleaseresearch in

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  how long will it take for a jw to see that even the overlapping generation is wrong?.

  the org waited and waited to see if their interpretation of it came true.

  those alive in 1914 would still be alive obviously it didn't and jws have to believe in an overlapping generation.

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  pro, the wt message for the past 100 years has been THE END is now. The rubber band can only stretch so long. 2014, 100 years seemed to be the limit, a century! OK, give it a couple of years more. MY guess is that all bets are in and this is it. Again, either something hits or there is a doctrinal change.
  
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  JW Stand On Concealed Carry

  by Cold Steel in

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  if a jw wanted to get a concealed carry permit, would the society have any moral or ethical problems with it?

  in other words, if one of your elders noticed you were carrying concealed, would they be apt to just ignore it or would they counsel you on it?

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  *** w98 12/15 p. 22 When Armed Robbers Strike ***
  Some people desperately seek security by arming themselves with guns. Christians, though, take seriously the words of Jesus, who said: “Those who take the sword will perish by the sword.” (Matthew 26:52) God’s people have ‘beaten their swords into plowshares’ and do not buy guns to protect themselves from robbery or assault.—Micah 4:3.

  The WTS does not elaborate too much on prohibiting purchasing guns for the purpose self defense from other humans. But the above quoted article clearly states that God's people do not buy guns for protection from other humans. If God's people do not buy guns for protection from humans then logically anyone buying a gun for such purpose is not God's people.
  
  
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  JW Stand On Concealed Carry

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if a jw wanted to get a concealed carry permit, would the society have any moral or ethical problems with it?

  in other words, if one of your elders noticed you were carrying concealed, would they be apt to just ignore it or would they counsel you on it?

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  Fisherman

  My post was off the top of my head, I did not research the matter. I was surprised to read on the WT site that it is a personal matter to work in a job that requires packing a gun. I really cannot see how a jw could do that. I suppose that in certain countries there may be no other option for some jw.than to work at job with a weapons or because of the the legality or politics for the WT to outright prohibit JW from having guns. Also maybe some cop or some one else required to pack just converted to JW and cannot leave his job, etc.
  
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  Generation expiry date?

  by pleaseresearch in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how long will it take for a jw to see that even the overlapping generation is wrong?.

  the org waited and waited to see if their interpretation of it came true.

  those alive in 1914 would still be alive obviously it didn't and jws have to believe in an overlapping generation.

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  Fisherman

  October 1 2016 marks 102 years from 1914 and close to 41 years from 1975. There should be something coming down on the horizon either event or teaching, my guess that something must give by 2017 latest. I have posted this before.
  
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  JW Stand On Concealed Carry

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if a jw wanted to get a concealed carry permit, would the society have any moral or ethical problems with it?

  in other words, if one of your elders noticed you were carrying concealed, would they be apt to just ignore it or would they counsel you on it?

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  Fisherman

  The philosophy is based upon trust in Jehovah for salvation and survival. A JW if attacked will try to get away first and then he may have to try to defend himself so that that he can get away but JW should not learn warfare or carry weapons.
  
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  JW Stand On Concealed Carry

  by Cold Steel in

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  2. beliefs

  if a jw wanted to get a concealed carry permit, would the society have any moral or ethical problems with it?

  in other words, if one of your elders noticed you were carrying concealed, would they be apt to just ignore it or would they counsel you on it?

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  According to the WT, JW should not arm themselves or use firearms for the purpose of self defense (from other humans that is.) let alone even owing a gun or studying martial arts for such intended purpose IF a JW goes against this teaching, he would not qualify for privileges.
  
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  D-Wave Founder Eric Ladizinsky - The Coming Quantum Computing Revolution

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  i wonder how many doublings moore's law will keep happening now that we have begun quantum computing?.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omn4mc_21xe.

  http://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/mooreslaw.asp.

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  Thanks for the info and the links bbw. Great stuff!
  
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  Did the flood happen?

  by BlackWolf in

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  so we were talking about noah for our family worship tonight and it ended with a little debate between me and my parents about how the flood was possible.

  you know, where did the water come from, how did all the animals fit, etc.

  of course it led nowhere and my parents came up with some strange theories like that there was "an expanse of water in the sky" and that's where all the water came from.

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  Did the flood happen?

  Scientific evidence is subject to interpretation. Jesus confirmed that it did by referring to it same as he confirmed the creation of Adam and Eve by referring to them.
  
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  JW Stand On Concealed Carry

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if a jw wanted to get a concealed carry permit, would the society have any moral or ethical problems with it?

  in other words, if one of your elders noticed you were carrying concealed, would they be apt to just ignore it or would they counsel you on it?

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  Fisherman

  Off the top of my head, prior to 1982, the WT was silent for the most part on JW owning firearms. Seems that some brother carrying a concealed licensed firearm triggered the WT to write a policy on JW owning guns in a wt or awake article-probably wt- banning ownership of guns for self defense by JW. JW should not own guns for self defense, but can they be df'd or da'd? I don't know
  
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  Appealing a disfellowshipping - any experience

  by dozy in

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  anyone had any experience of a successful appeal against a disfellowship?

  a friend of mine feels he has been dfd unjustifiably & is considering an appeal.

  he probably has something of a case - the jc was a total shambles - but i'm very dubious that he has any likelihood of success.. my only experience of a successful appeal is when elders in a neighbouring congregation were appointed by the co & overturned a df in our congregation a few years ago.

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  My impression generally has been that an appeal is usually pretty hopeless

  That ain't true. JC decisions have been reversed- but they ain't legal proceedings.