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  Reveal article: Jehovah’s Witnesses settle suit alleging cover-up of child sex abuse

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/jehovahs-witnesses-settle-lawsuit-alleging-coverup-of-child-sex-abuse/.

  by trey bundy / february 17, 2017 .

  the jehovah’s witnesses settled a lawsuit this week brought by a pennsylvania woman who says the religion’s leaders covered up sexual abuse she suffered as a teenager.. the settlement came five days into a trial in which stephanie fessler, a former jehovah’s witness, claimed the religion’s parent corporation violated pennsylvania’s child abuse reporting laws by instructing local leaders – known as elders – not to report her allegations to police.. according to fessler, a middle-aged jehovah’s witness woman, terry monheim, began sexually abusing her when she was 14. at 15, fessler disclosed the abuse to her parents.

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  Fisherman

  When a city employee commits a wrongful act and that act causes damage to someone, the city is vicariously liable.

  But what wrongful act is the wt doing when they are required by US law not disclose confidential communications and wt must comply?

  It is the US law that protects confidential communications. And when state law contradicts US law, state law does not invalidate US law.

  What does wt have to gain by keeping confidentiality? US law holds wt responsible not to disclose confidential communications.

  WT still has a legal duty under US law not to disclose even when state law contradicts US law.

  And how is wt covering anything up when confidential communications OF THE CONGREGANT is protected under US law. WT and elders are not gaining anything by the non-disclosure, to the contrary; US law holds wt accountable. WT is not covering up child abuse.

  It is US law that covers up the communication- not wt.

  I think that covers it except that in the US anybody can sue anyone for anything. And regardless of the validity of the case, all cases must be defended and that costs a lot of money and when the cost of the defense exceeds the damages sought, it is cheaper to settle. Defense costs money win or loose. The person being sued wants to pay the least amount as possible. The person suing wt and their attorneys want money from the wt. That is all they want --money --- and that is all they settle for; they don't care about child abuse confidentiality and the wt but only as it applies to their case in dollars. That is what US case law shows.
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  Reveal article: Jehovah’s Witnesses settle suit alleging cover-up of child sex abuse

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/jehovahs-witnesses-settle-lawsuit-alleging-coverup-of-child-sex-abuse/.

  by trey bundy / february 17, 2017 .

  the jehovah’s witnesses settled a lawsuit this week brought by a pennsylvania woman who says the religion’s leaders covered up sexual abuse she suffered as a teenager.. the settlement came five days into a trial in which stephanie fessler, a former jehovah’s witness, claimed the religion’s parent corporation violated pennsylvania’s child abuse reporting laws by instructing local leaders – known as elders – not to report her allegations to police.. according to fessler, a middle-aged jehovah’s witness woman, terry monheim, began sexually abusing her when she was 14. at 15, fessler disclosed the abuse to her parents.

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  Fisherman

  DD, It is true that WT does not have a clergy/Laity as you state.

  But, US law considers that certain communications between elders and others in the congregation are confidential and should not be disclosed.
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  Reveal article: Jehovah’s Witnesses settle suit alleging cover-up of child sex abuse

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/jehovahs-witnesses-settle-lawsuit-alleging-coverup-of-child-sex-abuse/.

  by trey bundy / february 17, 2017 .

  the jehovah’s witnesses settled a lawsuit this week brought by a pennsylvania woman who says the religion’s leaders covered up sexual abuse she suffered as a teenager.. the settlement came five days into a trial in which stephanie fessler, a former jehovah’s witness, claimed the religion’s parent corporation violated pennsylvania’s child abuse reporting laws by instructing local leaders – known as elders – not to report her allegations to police.. according to fessler, a middle-aged jehovah’s witness woman, terry monheim, began sexually abusing her when she was 14. at 15, fessler disclosed the abuse to her parents.

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  Fisherman

  Yelling at your opponent at chess does not invalidate his position.
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  jehovah witness elder molest his daughter ... Lynn Gardner

  by jaydee in

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  2. child-abuse

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boizyklif4q.

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  Fisherman

  ...they are not what makes the wt uniquely abhorrent.

  That's another topic.
  
  
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  jehovah witness elder molest his daughter ... Lynn Gardner

  by jaydee in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boizyklif4q.

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  Fisherman

  
  

  "Guilt should be

  decided

  in advance
  

  without a trial

  and the

  defense

  should not be

  heard."

  
  
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  jehovah witness elder molest his daughter ... Lynn Gardner

  by jaydee in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boizyklif4q.

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  Fisherman

  Her story cannot

  be verified from just listening

  to her accusations.

  Maybe they are

  true and maybe

  they are not.

  Your guess is

  as good as mine.

  Unless you show proof.

  That is only one side

  of the story presented here,

  a sad story,

  but that is all it is.

  In all fairness though, an impartial

  arbitrator must hear the side

  of the defense also to......................................................................................................................... decide.
  
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  Reveal article: Jehovah’s Witnesses settle suit alleging cover-up of child sex abuse

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/jehovahs-witnesses-settle-lawsuit-alleging-coverup-of-child-sex-abuse/.

  by trey bundy / february 17, 2017 .

  the jehovah’s witnesses settled a lawsuit this week brought by a pennsylvania woman who says the religion’s leaders covered up sexual abuse she suffered as a teenager.. the settlement came five days into a trial in which stephanie fessler, a former jehovah’s witness, claimed the religion’s parent corporation violated pennsylvania’s child abuse reporting laws by instructing local leaders – known as elders – not to report her allegations to police.. according to fessler, a middle-aged jehovah’s witness woman, terry monheim, began sexually abusing her when she was 14. at 15, fessler disclosed the abuse to her parents.

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  er is an elder. Will he be disfellowshipped for this wilful neglect? Will he be stood down for failing to be exemplary?

  What does that have to do with the legal duty of the guardians to protect their child physically?
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  Reveal article: Jehovah’s Witnesses settle suit alleging cover-up of child sex abuse

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/jehovahs-witnesses-settle-lawsuit-alleging-coverup-of-child-sex-abuse/.

  by trey bundy / february 17, 2017 .

  the jehovah’s witnesses settled a lawsuit this week brought by a pennsylvania woman who says the religion’s leaders covered up sexual abuse she suffered as a teenager.. the settlement came five days into a trial in which stephanie fessler, a former jehovah’s witness, claimed the religion’s parent corporation violated pennsylvania’s child abuse reporting laws by instructing local leaders – known as elders – not to report her allegations to police.. according to fessler, a middle-aged jehovah’s witness woman, terry monheim, began sexually abusing her when she was 14. at 15, fessler disclosed the abuse to her parents.

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  RO,

  Kindly provide a link with your views and please don't flood the thread with cut and paste. Very informative I may add.
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  Reveal article: Jehovah’s Witnesses settle suit alleging cover-up of child sex abuse

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/jehovahs-witnesses-settle-lawsuit-alleging-coverup-of-child-sex-abuse/.

  by trey bundy / february 17, 2017 .

  the jehovah’s witnesses settled a lawsuit this week brought by a pennsylvania woman who says the religion’s leaders covered up sexual abuse she suffered as a teenager.. the settlement came five days into a trial in which stephanie fessler, a former jehovah’s witness, claimed the religion’s parent corporation violated pennsylvania’s child abuse reporting laws by instructing local leaders – known as elders – not to report her allegations to police.. according to fessler, a middle-aged jehovah’s witness woman, terry monheim, began sexually abusing her when she was 14. at 15, fessler disclosed the abuse to her parents.

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  Fessler’s parents informed other congregation elders, who interrogated Fessler and Monheim but failed to report the abuse to police. As a result, Monheim continued to abuse Fessler for another year, according to court documents.

  As a result of the parent's failure to protect their child.
  
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  Reveal article: Jehovah’s Witnesses settle suit alleging cover-up of child sex abuse

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/jehovahs-witnesses-settle-lawsuit-alleging-coverup-of-child-sex-abuse/.

  by trey bundy / february 17, 2017 .

  the jehovah’s witnesses settled a lawsuit this week brought by a pennsylvania woman who says the religion’s leaders covered up sexual abuse she suffered as a teenager.. the settlement came five days into a trial in which stephanie fessler, a former jehovah’s witness, claimed the religion’s parent corporation violated pennsylvania’s child abuse reporting laws by instructing local leaders – known as elders – not to report her allegations to police.. according to fessler, a middle-aged jehovah’s witness woman, terry monheim, began sexually abusing her when she was 14. at 15, fessler disclosed the abuse to her parents.

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  the religion’s leaders covered up sexual abuse she suffered as a teenager.

  Since it is axiomatic that it is US law that protects child abuse communications in a c/p setting, that allegation is a blatant lie and a miscategorization. Coverup implies wrongful conduct. WT compliance with US law under wt version of c/p is not cover-up.

  Are active child abusers that confess under the secrecy of a Catholic confession a cover up? Not under US law it is not. However, even under such a setting and relationship does not make it automatically qualify, it can be challenged, and it has.

  And therefore the contention against the WT is not the congregant's protection under the First Amendment, but qualifications under a JC setting under the circumstances of a given case.