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  jehovah witness elder molest his daughter ... Lynn Gardner

  by jaydee in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boizyklif4q.

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  Fisherman

  Violating state mandatory child abuse reporting law is a crime or a violation of said statute. Can you cite one case filed against the WT in the US where wt was found guilty of violating a mandatory child abuse reporting statute as you are suggesting below that wt may be guilty of?

  Of course those are difficult to find. The Watchtower settles all of them before the court can make a judgement on the case!

  I never said anything about these having to be criminal cases and neither did you.

  
  

  Who is off track?

  
  

  
  

  
  
  
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  jehovah witness elder molest his daughter ... Lynn Gardner

  by jaydee in

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  2. child-abuse

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boizyklif4q.

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  Fisherman

  The Watchtower settles all of them before the court can make a judgement on the case!

  Again, that is not true. Criminal cases are prosecuted and cannot be settled out of Court. You should know this by now.
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  jehovah witness elder molest his daughter ... Lynn Gardner

  by jaydee in

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  2. child-abuse

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boizyklif4q.

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  Fisherman

  The Fessler Case could be of some interest.

  Any case can be found interesting but the case that you cite is a civil case and not criminal; wt was not prosecuted; and neither was wt found legally liable of anything in the case that you cite. You should know this by now.
  
  
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  jehovah witness elder molest his daughter ... Lynn Gardner

  by jaydee in

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  2. child-abuse

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boizyklif4q.

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  Fisherman

  https://www.eff.org/issues/bloggers/legal/liability/defamation
  
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  Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

  by Simon in

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  2. scandals

  judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

  imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

  by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

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  jehovah witness elder molest his daughter ... Lynn Gardner

  by jaydee in

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  2. child-abuse

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boizyklif4q.

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  Fisherman

  Why not? By whose authority

  We can debate back and forth whether or not Eden One related statements are opinions or not. I have already stated that I do not know.

  I suppose that someone with authority could decide, but not me. And would have to ask Eden one and not me; I don't know.
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  jehovah witness elder molest his daughter ... Lynn Gardner

  by jaydee in

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  2. child-abuse

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boizyklif4q.

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  Fisherman

  An internet forum, by definition, isn't a court room. It's an arena of opinions.

  You are talking to the wrong person.

  
  

  Why would you have to even raise that question here?

  Why not?
  
  

  Makes no sense other than stir confusion.

  How?
  
  

  
  
  
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  jehovah witness elder molest his daughter ... Lynn Gardner

  by jaydee in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boizyklif4q.

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  Fisherman

  Eden One, I never said that your related posts are not opinions; I don't know one way or another but only that you say that they are opinions. The point of my post that you refer to is that I do not have any authority to determine one way or the other.
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  jehovah witness elder molest his daughter ... Lynn Gardner

  by jaydee in

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  2. child-abuse

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boizyklif4q.

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  Fisherman

  Labeling a statement as your "opinion" does not make it so. Courts look at whether a reasonable reader or listener could understand the statement as asserting a statement of verifiable fact. (A verifiable fact is one capable of being proven true or false.)
  
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  jehovah witness elder molest his daughter ... Lynn Gardner

  by jaydee in

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  2. child-abuse

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boizyklif4q.

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  Fisherman

  That IS exactly what I am saying.

  OK