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Who can explain why the "Two Witness" rule is wrong, in the simplest term?
by DATA-DOG in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
with all the legalese being tossed around, and the expert manipulation on the part of the wtbts, who can explain why the "two witness" is being perverted by the wtbts?

i don't care if you're a bible believer and want to approach this from a biblical standpoint, or if you simply use logic and reason.

how would you explain this subject to a j-dub, or even a non-dub?.
Fisherman

No one can explain why the "2 witness" rule is wrong; for 2 reasons. 1. You have not defined 2 witness rule and 2. The 2 witness rule is not wrong.
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Who can explain why the "Two Witness" rule is wrong, in the simplest term?
by DATA-DOG in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
with all the legalese being tossed around, and the expert manipulation on the part of the wtbts, who can explain why the "two witness" is being perverted by the wtbts?

i don't care if you're a bible believer and want to approach this from a biblical standpoint, or if you simply use logic and reason.

how would you explain this subject to a j-dub, or even a non-dub?.
Fisherman

Cite one case example or a hypothetical case example and we can examine the case together objectively -if you want.
Or you can analyze the case without me.
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ARC Case Study 54 - Witness List published for 10 March 2017
by jwleaks in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.

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Fisherman

it is no kangaroo court - nothing like a JW judicial committee.
Listener, are you saying that a Judicial Committee is a Kangaroo Court?
they are given the opportunity of having their own lawyers there to speak up.
Wow, that is very interesting Listener! Can you post a link or something that verifies this!
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ARC Case Study 54 - Witness List published for 10 March 2017
by jwleaks in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.

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Fisherman

derision shown
The ARC is not a kangaroo court. I doubt very much that any of the ARC appointees mocked anyone that was under investigstion but that would not be something for me to decide -but for the Australian government if such allegations were true.
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ARC Case Study 54 - Witness List published for 10 March 2017
by jwleaks in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.

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Fisherman

The investigation has been completed. It is over. Done. Finished
I never said is was not completed. this is what I said (emphasis mine):
Shouldnt you allow the investigation to continue and be completed AND wait until the Australian government forms an opinion on the commission's findings and recommendations, then look at all of the facts, before forming a personal opinion?
Zeb published the ARC report on this forum in pdf a while back so I should have known that it was " finished"
What would someone have to wait on to form an opinion? Some stamp of approval/disapproval by the government of Australia?
Can the Australian government challenge the findings or some of the findings or recommendations of the commission? Or can they want to probe further with another investigation? One poster here said that he felt that Mr Angus as laughing at some people being investigated. If that is true, that couldvbe something that the government could look into as it relates to the validy of what the government decides are the facts or something else for that mstter. I dont know but in all objectivity I would wait to hear what Australia decides are the facts. The commission only reports them as the commission sees them. The case is not over,
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ARC Case Study 54 - Witness List published for 10 March 2017
by jwleaks in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.

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Fisherman

I didn't need the ARC to tell me anythything
ok. but I was replying to this statement:

My takeaway from these ARC hearings is that.....
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ARC Case Study 54 - Witness List published for 10 March 2017
by jwleaks in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.

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Fisherman

My takeaway from these ARC hearings is that the Jehovah's Witnesses organization is a cruel religion!
Shouldnt you allow the investigation to continue and be completed and wait until the Australian government forms an opinion on the commission's findings and recommendations, then look at all of the facts, before forming a personal opinion?
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ARC Case Study 54 - Witness List published for 10 March 2017
by jwleaks in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.

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Fisherman

Fisherman, you invalidate yourself OC
Saying so does not make it so, same as unsubstantiated assertions are nothing more than assertions.
Also, what do you mean by saying that what I say invalidates me. What you say doesn't make sense.
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ARC Case Study 54 - Witness List published for 10 March 2017
by jwleaks in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.

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Fisherman

Angus laughing at them
To Orphan Crow and Dubstepped:
I doubt very much that a commissioner of the Australian government acting in his official capacity would do this, as it would indicate an existing mindset and not fact finding objectivity in the investigation. The role of an investigator is to find facts and not laugh at people under investigation. If it were true it could be a reflection of the government that put him in that position if such government lnew about it allowed him to continue in his appointed position.
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ARC Case Study 54 - Witness List published for 10 March 2017
by jwleaks in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.

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Fisherman

Please just ghost...... dubstepped
How would that verify anything that you say or invalidate anything that I say?