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  Who can explain why the "Two Witness" rule is wrong, in the simplest term?

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with all the legalese being tossed around, and the expert manipulation on the part of the wtbts, who can explain why the "two witness" is being perverted by the wtbts?

  i don't care if you're a bible believer and want to approach this from a biblical standpoint, or if you simply use logic and reason.

  how would you explain this subject to a j-dub, or even a non-dub?.

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  Fisherman

  Deut 16:7.........It says nothing about establishing guilt. OC

  That is correct and the context of verses 8-11 show that cases involving law trangressions in ancient Israel were adjudicated and decisions were reached.
  
  
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  Who can explain why the "Two Witness" rule is wrong, in the simplest term?

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with all the legalese being tossed around, and the expert manipulation on the part of the wtbts, who can explain why the "two witness" is being perverted by the wtbts?

  i don't care if you're a bible believer and want to approach this from a biblical standpoint, or if you simply use logic and reason.

  how would you explain this subject to a j-dub, or even a non-dub?.

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  Fisherman

  What is wrong is for Watchtower to be in the business of law enforcement and justice.

  That is not necessarily wrong but what is a fact is that Watchtower is not authorized to enforce secular law and it is also a fact that Watchtower does not have the power or authority to administer secular justice.
  
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  Who can explain why the "Two Witness" rule is wrong, in the simplest term?

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with all the legalese being tossed around, and the expert manipulation on the part of the wtbts, who can explain why the "two witness" is being perverted by the wtbts?

  i don't care if you're a bible believer and want to approach this from a biblical standpoint, or if you simply use logic and reason.

  how would you explain this subject to a j-dub, or even a non-dub?.

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  Fisherman

  With all the legalese being tossed around, and the expert manipulation on the part of the WTBTS,

  That is only your opinion.You haven't shown that to be true.
  
  
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  What do you think the Australian Government will do?

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i am not wanting to start a fight.

  i just want to hear what people think.

  honestly and realistically, what do you think the australian government will do, with watchtower, when they receive the full arc report?.

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  Fisherman

  what will the govt do Richard?

  No, this is what was asked:

  What do you think the Australian government will do?

  Zeb, the question only asks for an opinion.
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  AUSTRALIA - Petition to Cancel the Charity Status of Watchtower and Jehovah's Witnesses

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  a petition has been launched in australia to coincide with the child abuse royal commission's adverse findings against watchtower and jehovah's witnesses.

  the petition is to the australian charities and not-for-profit commission to cancel their charity status.. https://www.change.org/p/australian-charities-and-not-for-profit-commission-acnc-cancel-the-watchtower-bible-and-tract-society-s-charity-status.

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  Fisherman

  2336 vs 11,000,000
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  Who can explain why the "Two Witness" rule is wrong, in the simplest term?

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with all the legalese being tossed around, and the expert manipulation on the part of the wtbts, who can explain why the "two witness" is being perverted by the wtbts?

  i don't care if you're a bible believer and want to approach this from a biblical standpoint, or if you simply use logic and reason.

  how would you explain this subject to a j-dub, or even a non-dub?.

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  Fisherman

  No one can explain why the "2 witness" rule is wrong; for 2 reasons. 1. You have not defined 2 witness rule and 2. The 2 witness rule is not wrong.
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  Who can explain why the "Two Witness" rule is wrong, in the simplest term?

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with all the legalese being tossed around, and the expert manipulation on the part of the wtbts, who can explain why the "two witness" is being perverted by the wtbts?

  i don't care if you're a bible believer and want to approach this from a biblical standpoint, or if you simply use logic and reason.

  how would you explain this subject to a j-dub, or even a non-dub?.

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  Fisherman

  Cite one case example or a hypothetical case example and we can examine the case together objectively -if you want.

  Or you can analyze the case without me.
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  ARC Case Study 54 - Witness List published for 10 March 2017

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.

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  Fisherman

  it is no kangaroo court - nothing like a JW judicial committee.

  Listener, are you saying that a Judicial Committee is a Kangaroo Court?

  they are given the opportunity of having their own lawyers there to speak up.

  Wow, that is very interesting Listener! Can you post a link or something that verifies this!
  
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  ARC Case Study 54 - Witness List published for 10 March 2017

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.

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  derision shown

  The ARC is not a kangaroo court. I doubt very much that any of the ARC appointees mocked anyone that was under investigstion but that would not be something for me to decide -but for the Australian government if such allegations were true.
  
  
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  ARC Case Study 54 - Witness List published for 10 March 2017

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.

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  Fisherman

  The investigation has been completed. It is over. Done. Finished

  I never said is was not completed. this is what I said (emphasis mine):

  Shouldnt you allow the investigation to continue and be completed AND wait until the Australian government forms an opinion on the commission's findings and recommendations, then look at all of the facts, before forming a personal opinion?

  Zeb published the ARC report on this forum in pdf a while back so I should have known that it was " finished"

  What would someone have to wait on to form an opinion? Some stamp of approval/disapproval by the government of Australia?

  Can the Australian government challenge the findings or some of the findings or recommendations of the commission? Or can they want to probe further with another investigation? One poster here said that he felt that Mr Angus as laughing at some people being investigated. If that is true, that couldvbe something that the government could look into as it relates to the validy of what the government decides are the facts or something else for that mstter. I dont know but in all objectivity I would wait to hear what Australia decides are the facts. The commission only reports them as the commission sees them. The case is not over,