Posts by Fisherman

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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

by cofty in

... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

they take pride in obedience.

Fisherman

is really staggering to think that if a group of humble men had taken a few days to properly research this issue an awful lot of unnecessary death would have been avoided. cofty

You have not shown that blood is not sacred to God. You have only shown in your argument that blood from a creature that is not slaughtered for food should not be -based on your argument.

As TD and I discussed, pumping three quarters of a gallon -more or less- of blood into your body is not abstaining from blood within any definition of the word abstain used in the book of Acts penned by the "beloved physician," Luke. And as Richard Oliver pointed out, even the conversation of drinking the blood of Jesus was shocking to the Apostles prior to the Actian decree. The Bible does not say that God allows the using of blood from living creatures ( or found dead ones ) to pump into the body of a worshipper of Jehovah. That is your conclusion.

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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

by cofty in

... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

they take pride in obedience.

Fisherman

there should not be any symbolic value to God in blood taken from a creature not slaughtered cofty

No you havent. But to be fair. You have made your point in your argument that there should not be any symbolic value to God in blood taken from a creature not slaughtered -as you argue. fisherman

Therefore blood transfusions are not against god's law. Therefore thousands have died for a theological blunder. Therefore the Watchtower are not led by the holy spirit. cofty

You conclude too much.

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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

by cofty in

... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

they take pride in obedience.

Fisherman

I have reconciled every verse regarding blood. cofty

No you havent. But to be fair. You have made your point in your argument that there should not be any symbolic value to God in blood taken from a creature not slaughtered -as you argue.

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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

by cofty in

... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

they take pride in obedience.

Fisherman

Is English not your first language?

I speak many languages yet your conclusions about Lev 17 are not proven in your argument on this thread. Your assertions are not substatiated.

how vs why

One distinction about the blood from an animal found dead is that it could not be poured out. Another distinction is that if an Israelite ate a dead unbled carcass he became ceremonially unclean by doing so.

But all of the law needs to be considered not just the verses that you like with your explanations about them.

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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

by cofty in

... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

they take pride in obedience.

Fisherman

My question for you is - why?

That is a conclusion.

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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

by cofty in

... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

they take pride in obedience.

Fisherman

cofty, Lev 17 shows a distinction between the blood of an animal slaughtered for food and the blood of an animal found dead.

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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

by cofty in

... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

they take pride in obedience.

Fisherman

can tell people what and where to post. dubstepped

Do you want to have a spelling bee or a name calling contest on this thread and forget about the topic being discussed?

Stavro, do you want to have a spelling bee or a name calling contest on this thread?

Don't bother me with the topic cofty, I am busy responding to nonsense coming from dub and stavro.

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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

by cofty in

... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

they take pride in obedience.

Fisherman

stavro, If you want to have a discussion about what think about me and about what you think about what I say and about what I think about what you think about md a ne about what I say and abou what I think about you and shat I think about what you say and about what you think about what I ghink about you and what you say... , yu can start a new topic about that.

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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

by cofty in

... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

they take pride in obedience.

Fisherman

Why is there a difference if the blood is sacred in the way JWs believe it to be?

Lev 17 shows a distinction. Difference in sacredness is cofty's conclusion as argued by cofty.

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Number of Muslims protesting London terrorist attack = ZERO. Number of Muslims protesting forced Mosque closure in France = HUNDREDS

by kpop in

so it is now two days after another islamic terrorist attack.

how many muslims are in the streets protesting and condemning this evil?

how many are marching in all the big cities condemning this in mass protests?.

Fisherman

Should another terrorist attack happen - heaven forbid- what are the odds of the attackers being Islamic? What could be done in advance to save lives of terrorist victims before terrorism happens, given the odds?