Posts by Fisherman

due to watchtower flagging the mike & kim videos on youtube for copyright, youtube is giving them 6 days before they are shutting down their entire youtube channel.

can you help with a mass downloading program and then reuploading them on a mirror ?

would hate to lose all those good videos!

Fisherman

They have NOT come from the WTS but rather (at least originally) from ELDERS (or other members of the congregation) to whom the letters were addressed, who have then made them public, as is their right, even though instructed not to do so.

If a letter is not addressed to Elder Judas Iscariot or to Joe Pub about non confidential stuff but is addressed to a WT agent acting in his official capacity or to The Body of Elders, the letter and the information the letter contains may be considered to be wt property and it may not automatically be a person's right to make such letter public. Another word of caution, intellectual property must not have to be copyrighted to be protected.

Suppose, a wt letter is deemed to be wt property and not the property of an elder or of another person that took the letter, how does this affect a third party that received the information and published it without the permission of the owner? It depends on the substance of the letter and other variables but possession of information that is not yours does not automatically give you the right to publish such information even if the information is not copyrighted. ( wt letters may or may not be.)

A congregant may not automatically have the right to publish a letter sent to The Congregation.

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Does Morality Exist?

by Fisherman in

some people believe that stealing, lying and killing, is not moral.

some people don't.. does morality exist?

if so, prove it..

Fisherman

Justice is sometimes moral, and sometimes it's not. It depends on the situation and the corresponding circumstances. When it's not, mercy is, and mercy is the suspension of justice.

Says who?

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Help! Mike & Kim videos all being deleted by Youtube

by mrmagic in

due to watchtower flagging the mike & kim videos on youtube for copyright, youtube is giving them 6 days before they are shutting down their entire youtube channel.

can you help with a mass downloading program and then reuploading them on a mirror ?

would hate to lose all those good videos!

Fisherman

The letter is addressed to him so therefore becomes HIS property, not mine. What he does with it afterwards is entirely up to him,

That is true but not always. There is a flaw in your statement. Let me illustrate. I have confidentiality agreements with my workers. I send them letters all of the time containing protected information. It is NOT entirely up to them to publish the letters I send them about company matters.

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Help! Mike & Kim videos all being deleted by Youtube

by mrmagic in

due to watchtower flagging the mike & kim videos on youtube for copyright, youtube is giving them 6 days before they are shutting down their entire youtube channel.

can you help with a mass downloading program and then reuploading them on a mirror ?

would hate to lose all those good videos!

Fisherman

Actually, they do. Mike and Kim bring to light plenty of issues that they simply ignore. Instead of answering these issues, they play the legal game.

Tell it to the judge.

You do the same thing by ignoring the motives of the society and playing the legal game.

Legal proceedings is no game. Your theory of wt moral motives is no excuse to break the law. Your morality does not trump over the law. If you like it and believe it is better go eat a bolony sandwich.

Who's morality is better? Mine or WT? Let me humbly submit that it is mine.

you can believe that if you like but if KM are breaking the law the Courts will stop them.

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Help! Mike & Kim videos all being deleted by Youtube

by mrmagic in

due to watchtower flagging the mike & kim videos on youtube for copyright, youtube is giving them 6 days before they are shutting down their entire youtube channel.

can you help with a mass downloading program and then reuploading them on a mirror ?

would hate to lose all those good videos!

Fisherman

Since WT information supposedly originates and is edited by Jehovah, does WT then have the right to claim copywrite on that information?

That is a moral question. You have your morality and wt has theirs. If you don't like wt morality go eat bananas and tuna fish or something. But if you break the law, wt will take you to Court and you are ofree to do the same thing if you don't like what wt does. If you don't think that is moral, Too Bad!!! Go start your own religious movement, and if your movement infringes on wt copyright, guess what? WT will see you in Court again, and if you don't like it?? Too Bad for you again!

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Help! Mike & Kim videos all being deleted by Youtube

by mrmagic in

due to watchtower flagging the mike & kim videos on youtube for copyright, youtube is giving them 6 days before they are shutting down their entire youtube channel.

can you help with a mass downloading program and then reuploading them on a mirror ?

would hate to lose all those good videos!

Fisherman

@ OC floods the thread with legalese and links to views and books having no legal merit.

I am eating potato chips in reply to your post. If KM is fighting for fair use, they may or may not win -by the way.

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Help! Mike & Kim videos all being deleted by Youtube

by mrmagic in

due to watchtower flagging the mike & kim videos on youtube for copyright, youtube is giving them 6 days before they are shutting down their entire youtube channel.

can you help with a mass downloading program and then reuploading them on a mirror ?

would hate to lose all those good videos!

Fisherman

The WT are not really interested in protecting their copyright.

Fair Use legal proceedings will decide. A person can plead his cause in Court pro-se if he cannot afford an attorney. All that the person has to do is to explain his side to the judge. You are using excuses for breaking the law. Explain your excuses in Court.

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Help! Mike & Kim videos all being deleted by Youtube

by mrmagic in

due to watchtower flagging the mike & kim videos on youtube for copyright, youtube is giving them 6 days before they are shutting down their entire youtube channel.

can you help with a mass downloading program and then reuploading them on a mirror ?

would hate to lose all those good videos!

Fisherman

My point here is that the WTS presents a less than shining example in the use of others work.

Maybe or maybe not but that is not decided in a discussion Forum. The point here is what JD highlighted in his post - the consequences of loosing to those men with the black robes that I alluded to in my previous post.

Isis for example encroach on human life and property for their moral reasons.They feel that countries like the US, the land of the free and the home of the brave, where freedom rings and justice prevails is doing many immoral acts ( Imagine that ! ) and that gives them the moral right to do what they do -whatever the heck they want. Problem for them is that a lot people are opposed to their actions and not necessarily the morality behind their actions- only their actions. So getting back to JD, there are legal consequences for their actions. Moral consequences of immortality should be adjudicated and enforced by someone having moral subject matter jurisdiction.