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  Mexico News Daily: Blood transfusion case before Supreme Court

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/blood-transfusion-case-before-supreme-court/.

  blood transfusion case before supreme court.

  mother refuses transfusion on religious grounds for daughter with leukemia.

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  Fisherman

  Are you sure you understand how leukemia is treated

  @TD: My statement is true whether or not blood is the most effective or the only effective treatment for any given illness --but I was not referring specifically to lukemia in my post. If a person looses about 20 percent of blood volume for example, they can go into hypovolemic shock, blood expanders can help to a point but there comes a point where only blood will help.

  Blood harvested for BT should come from non infected, willing donors that are not killed for the product; and since blood is being used to save a human life and no harm is being done to another person, it is easy to feel that a BT is not wrong. But is there ever a point where a person should feel that it is wrong to commit an act for the purpose of self preservation?

  https://transfusionfree.usc.edu/case-studies/case-study-transfusion-free-leukemia-treatment/
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  Mexico News Daily: Blood transfusion case before Supreme Court

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/blood-transfusion-case-before-supreme-court/.

  blood transfusion case before supreme court.

  mother refuses transfusion on religious grounds for daughter with leukemia.

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  Fisherman

  when a parent requests "second best" medical treatment for their child.

  No. When a parent requests no-blood vs blood for a child, a physician has an obligation to the patient: to honestly decide in the best interests of the child. Everything considered, blood is the easy choice for a doctor, no-blood management is harder and more work. Doctors also look at what is more profitable.
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  Mexico News Daily: Blood transfusion case before Supreme Court

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/blood-transfusion-case-before-supreme-court/.

  blood transfusion case before supreme court.

  mother refuses transfusion on religious grounds for daughter with leukemia.

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  Fisherman

  children should be protected from the evil of the Watchtower - including rape!

  I don't know what you mean. People can feel however they like about things but if you or anybody else convicts wt specifically of doing something wrong or illegal, that is a different subject matter.
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  Mexico News Daily: Blood transfusion case before Supreme Court

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/blood-transfusion-case-before-supreme-court/.

  blood transfusion case before supreme court.

  mother refuses transfusion on religious grounds for daughter with leukemia.

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  Fisherman

  A couple of cases that come to mind:

  A child is in intensive care. Doctors decide that the child will need blood. JW parents ask the doctor to try non-blood first. Doctors refuse. No sooner than the doctors pump blood, the child dies.

  A JW man is in the hospital and the doctor tells him that he needs a blood transfusion or he is going to die. (The man has had the same problem before and doctors give him a ferrous compound IV and he pulls through) Man asks for the ferrous compound and doctors refuse --and go on and on telling the man to take the blood or die. Then the man's loved one comes into the room and doctors kick everybody JW out. Man's loved one is not JW. Doctors tell the loved one to just say the word and the man will get the blood inspite of the blood card. Loved one instructs the doctor to follow the man's wishes. Doctors refuse and meanwhile the man's condition is getting worse. Finally, the doctor agrees to administer the ferrous compound, the man's condition improves to the point where he pulls through and is sent home.
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  Mexico News Daily: Blood transfusion case before Supreme Court

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/blood-transfusion-case-before-supreme-court/.

  blood transfusion case before supreme court.

  mother refuses transfusion on religious grounds for daughter with leukemia.

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  Fisherman

  continue to ask the physician not to transfuse and to urge that no blood alternative treatments be utilized.

  How does doing this: "continue to defy the law " and "Disobey court orders."

  This court case in Mexico is entirely scripted and directed by the WTS/Org.

  Are you accusing the Court in this case?
  
  
  
  
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  Mexico News Daily: Blood transfusion case before Supreme Court

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/blood-transfusion-case-before-supreme-court/.

  blood transfusion case before supreme court.

  mother refuses transfusion on religious grounds for daughter with leukemia.

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  Yes - but many cases have ended up in court with deaths of JW children

  Court rulings sometimes results in the death or harming of people. -But they have the power and authority and enjoy immunity and have the final say. --And the rule is to transfuse. What do you want to do, use violence to overturn Roe vs Wade? ( So much concern about JW children!)
  
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  Do you believe in god?

  by freakyAL in

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  i used to be a staunch believer in god.

  maybe its technology and science advancing so much thats got me doubting idk.

  do you believe in god?

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  Fisherman

  What has Satan suffered all these thousands of years in comparison to what humans have suffered and are still suffering ?

  If God is anything like us, it must be very painful for Him to endure not only human suffering but a traitor of a son whom He loved and trusted and must be destroyed. God is so good and holy that when he created living things, he never imagined-it was unthinkable-that things could ever be like this -given the Bible.
  
  
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  Mexico News Daily: Blood transfusion case before Supreme Court

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/blood-transfusion-case-before-supreme-court/.

  blood transfusion case before supreme court.

  mother refuses transfusion on religious grounds for daughter with leukemia.

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  Fisherman

  Parent's legal rights -- I try to understand and I'd want the same but......

  Thats why it's in Court.
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  Mexico News Daily: Blood transfusion case before Supreme Court

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/blood-transfusion-case-before-supreme-court/.

  blood transfusion case before supreme court.

  mother refuses transfusion on religious grounds for daughter with leukemia.

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  still don't understand the ruling since it's a child and risking alternative treatment.

  The Court must factor in the parent's legal rights to make medical decisions for the child and religious rights too to some degree that does not cause harm to the child.
  
  
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  Mexico News Daily: Blood transfusion case before Supreme Court

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/blood-transfusion-case-before-supreme-court/.

  blood transfusion case before supreme court.

  mother refuses transfusion on religious grounds for daughter with leukemia.

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  Fisherman

  What the Mexican High Court is not going to do is to let the child die for the religious reasons of his parents versus medical treatment using blood.

  In a medical emergency where a child requires an immediate blood transfusion with no other options available, the child would get the BT because a parent cannot choose martyrdom for a child. The child would become a ward of the state or of some appointed guardianship who would look out for the best interests of the child using blood to try to save the child's life against the parent's religious wishes.

  In this particular case, it looks like Mexico is going to let the parents try non-blood first but if doesn't work doctors will use blood -but maybe it will work.