Posts by Fisherman

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Simple Question Re 1914

by Slidin Fast in

wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

and the end times.

a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

Fisherman

Yes, as I see it, Jesus was enthroned at his Ascension.

You can believe that but it is not supported by the Bible because Jesus did not begin to rule as king. For example consider Rev 11:1-14 had not occurred at Jesus ascension then Rev11:15 Also Bible clearly says that Jesus was only sitting at God’s right at that time.

So. clearly he was not ruling as king because if so he would be sitting on his throne in heaven. At that time he couldn’t do that because Satan was there in heaven ( “until I put your enemies as a footstool..” alluding to being cast to God’s footstool, the earth). Jesus’s enthronement is described in Rev 12, later on when Satan was cast to the earth.

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Simple Question Re 1914

by Slidin Fast in

wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

and the end times.

a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

Fisherman

Hi Van,

Relating to the subject matter of this thread, I’ve already posted that scholar validated 607 as plausible. In other words, it hasn’t been debunked . You can have your personal feelings about the wt but what is interesting is if you could prove wt theology is wrong. Sure they continue to learn and understand God’s word but that doesn’t discredit them. IMHO, their work in interpreting and publishing the Bible is remarkable and after the Bible writers who gave us God’s, it is the greatest Bible educational work in human history.

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Simple Question Re 1914

by Slidin Fast in

wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

and the end times.

a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

Fisherman

True, the messenger does not invalidate the message. I agree, what Furuli says about the bogus WTS Faithful Slave is virtually flawless. Man-made, Man-run organization that could never get it right.

A doctor’s secular qualifications is medicine. He may not be qualified in other fields.
You say that the Watchtower Society has interpreted prophecy accurately.
No, you said they never have.
Can you list for me Onus is on you

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Simple Question Re 1914

by Slidin Fast in

wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

and the end times.

a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

Fisherman

Why reference an apostate (Furuli)

Colorful fallacious logic: Messenger doesn’t invalidate the messenger by being tte messenger.

multiple assumption speculation.

That’s not true. This thread has shown wt interpretation of the evidence is valid,

As I said, I concur with the New Testament...

How fo you interpret the evidence without understanding what it says?

not a man-made, man-run organization

Your belief doesn’t debunk the evidence.

never got a single prophecy right.

That is not true.

The WTS was never led by the Spirit of God.

God’s only org on earth like The religious system of the Israelites

The New Testament says that Christ was enthroned in the first century.

No it doesn’t. It says Jesus sat on God’s right hand. Revelation speaks about future event of birth of God’s kingdom.

Colossians 1:13

Compare Luke 17:20. Jesus refers to himself as the kingdom of God although still on earth for example. The same can be said about the kingdom in Colossians.

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Simple Question Re 1914

by Slidin Fast in

wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

and the end times.

a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

Fisherman

mainly based on the 70 years and through the research of Semitic scholar, Rolf Furuli has now been shown to be astronomically defensible.

So, all feelings aside. WT interpretation of the Bible is valid and at minimum, plausible.

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Simple Question Re 1914

by Slidin Fast in

wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

and the end times.

a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

Fisherman

absolutely obvious when the kingdom would be established. It has nothing to do with preconceived ideas.

Hi Van!

Thats what you assert. Not preconceived ideas. In all impartiality I concur with WT. WT interpretation is valid.

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Simple Question Re 1914

by Slidin Fast in

wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

and the end times.

a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

Fisherman

This person has been proved wrong over and over, but won't let it go. So sad.

Thats because you are not an impartial arbitrator but only an advocate.

I also debated with Allan. He claimed to have graduated from MIT. I quizzed him about something that every student there must know and he didn’t know I was talking about. I still believe him though.

His most interesting essay was on the ransom and I respected that essay but the WT already commented on the point he was challenging many years before he published his essay so it wasn’t an original research but It was an exceptional point he made .Even what scholar argues is only what wt has already commented on. WT is right on the money in Bible interpretation imho. One of the only exceptional points made on this Forum was made by cofty having to do with the distinction between the blood of an animal slaughtered for food and blood coming from a creature who was not slaughtered. Food for thought. However, WT had already commented on that distinction many years before but nevertheless cofty argument interesting.

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Simple Question Re 1914

by Slidin Fast in

wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

and the end times.

a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

Fisherman

Daniel 2, it is obvious that the kingdom would be established “in the days of those kings” (Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece,

It is not obvious Van. You've already made up your mind. You are an advocate of your beliefs. You are wrong because the kingdom would strike at the feet so the language in the days of those kings is poetic since God’s kingdom did nor strike the kingdoms you mentioned nor could ot be established until Jesus remained faithful to the death. The book of Daniel is about the future and about the time of the end. What happened to those Empires at that time is insignificant and part of a bigger picture, the statue representing all human rule replaced by the Messianic kingdom. That is the only sequitur conclusion.

540

Simple Question Re 1914

by Slidin Fast in

wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

and the end times.

a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

Fisherman

Everyone get tripped on months and days.

Having to do with irony and poetic justice alluded to by days and months.

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Simple Question Re 1914

by Slidin Fast in

wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

and the end times.

a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

Fisherman

There’s zero empirical evidence for beef

Thats why they say, have it your way-as the jingle goes.