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Simple Question Re 1914

by Slidin Fast in

wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

and the end times.

a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

Fisherman

Matthew 24:1-35 was fulfilled in the first century'

Mathew 24:30 all the tribes of the earth

Mark 13:25

Luke 21:36

Also, this prophecy has to do with his return and the separation of the sheep and the goats associated with his return—which did not happen back then but some parts of the prophecy like the disgusting thing did happen back then. So how can we harmonize and reconcile all these scriptures? Like the prophecy of Jesus coming on a colt and with the clouds of heaven, the prophecy has a dual fulfillment one in 70 and again 1914.

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Simple Question Re 1914

by Slidin Fast in

wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

and the end times.

a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

Fisherman

The fact is that we can determine precisely the ending of the Gentile Times right to the very calender month, October 1914

Precisely! Based on a historical fact, the fall of Babylon and using God’s word. Since the kingdom of God and Gentile Times are Bible subjects, in harmony and consistent with the Bible, we need to use Bible chronology and other Bible standards to extrapolate Gentile Times. Even if history seems to conflict with the Bible, we need to use Bible variables to get Bible results. So that means that to interpret prophecy, we need to use the Bible: 70 years. Ironically the 2 Temple fell in 70.

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Simple Question Re 1914

by Slidin Fast in

wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

and the end times.

a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

Fisherman

You debunked nothing.

I did. Bible clearly shows Jesus was not enthroned when you asserted he was as my post shows.

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Simple Question Re 1914

by Slidin Fast in

wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

and the end times.

a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

Fisherman

Van,

I debunked your belief with my posts citing scriptures showing Jesus was not enthroned in 33. Again, Scholar substantiated 607. WT belief in 1914 is solidly based. It hasn’t been falsified yet. You can have your belief too and si can others.

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Simple Question Re 1914

by Slidin Fast in

wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

and the end times.

a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

Fisherman

They are a slippery sort when it comes to rationality.

Not so. It was WT that published this nuance for all to see. And it was I who disclosed it on this Forum in all openness. I did not conceal this.Other religious systems are the slippery ones who refuse to admit when they are wrong. WT admits that they are learning.That is why since crossword puzzles were invented circa1914, wt has been solving it in pencil not in ink. But as scholar pointed out, the Gentile Times ended in 1914.

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Simple Question Re 1914

by Slidin Fast in

wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

and the end times.

a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

Fisherman

Yes, as I see it, Jesus was enthroned at his Ascension.

You can believe that but it is not supported by the Bible because Jesus did not begin to rule as king. For example consider Rev 11:1-14 had not occurred at Jesus ascension then Rev11:15 Also Bible clearly says that Jesus was only sitting at God’s right at that time.

So. clearly he was not ruling as king because if so he would be sitting on his throne in heaven. At that time he couldn’t do that because Satan was there in heaven ( “until I put your enemies as a footstool..” alluding to being cast to God’s footstool, the earth). Jesus’s enthronement is described in Rev 12, later on when Satan was cast to the earth.

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Simple Question Re 1914

by Slidin Fast in

wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

and the end times.

a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

Fisherman

Hi Van,

Relating to the subject matter of this thread, I’ve already posted that scholar validated 607 as plausible. In other words, it hasn’t been debunked . You can have your personal feelings about the wt but what is interesting is if you could prove wt theology is wrong. Sure they continue to learn and understand God’s word but that doesn’t discredit them. IMHO, their work in interpreting and publishing the Bible is remarkable and after the Bible writers who gave us God’s, it is the greatest Bible educational work in human history.

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Simple Question Re 1914

by Slidin Fast in

wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

and the end times.

a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

Fisherman

True, the messenger does not invalidate the message. I agree, what Furuli says about the bogus WTS Faithful Slave is virtually flawless. Man-made, Man-run organization that could never get it right.

A doctor’s secular qualifications is medicine. He may not be qualified in other fields.
You say that the Watchtower Society has interpreted prophecy accurately.
No, you said they never have.
Can you list for me Onus is on you

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Simple Question Re 1914

by Slidin Fast in

wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

and the end times.

a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

Fisherman

Why reference an apostate (Furuli)

Colorful fallacious logic: Messenger doesn’t invalidate the messenger by being tte messenger.

multiple assumption speculation.

That’s not true. This thread has shown wt interpretation of the evidence is valid,

As I said, I concur with the New Testament...

How fo you interpret the evidence without understanding what it says?

not a man-made, man-run organization

Your belief doesn’t debunk the evidence.

never got a single prophecy right.

That is not true.

The WTS was never led by the Spirit of God.

God’s only org on earth like The religious system of the Israelites

The New Testament says that Christ was enthroned in the first century.

No it doesn’t. It says Jesus sat on God’s right hand. Revelation speaks about future event of birth of God’s kingdom.

Colossians 1:13

Compare Luke 17:20. Jesus refers to himself as the kingdom of God although still on earth for example. The same can be said about the kingdom in Colossians.

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Simple Question Re 1914

by Slidin Fast in

wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

and the end times.

a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

Fisherman

mainly based on the 70 years and through the research of Semitic scholar, Rolf Furuli has now been shown to be astronomically defensible.

So, all feelings aside. WT interpretation of the Bible is valid and at minimum, plausible.