wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
You asked, "How?"
I have the wt. I know the teaching.
I think what you were originally implying is that ALL of the prophecy you cited was fulfilled then. My question was how was the part of the prophecy in vs 30 that deals with the parousia fulfilled then? (Since Jesus did not return in the manner described in Daniel which Jesus alluded to at his ascension.)
wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
And as I said, everything in Matthew 24:1-35 was fulfilled in the first century and that obviously includes verse 30.
Hi Van,🙂
How? Also how do the verses you cited answer the Apostle’s question about the parousia —which includes the separation of the sheep and the goats mentioned in the rest of the Bible?
wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
. I have presented scripture to support first century enthronement.
No you haven’t, You ignore the rest of the Bible,
wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
Matthew 24:1-35 was fulfilled in the first century'
Mathew 24:30 all the tribes of the earth
Mark 13:25
Luke 21:36
Also, this prophecy has to do with his return and the separation of the sheep and the goats associated with his return—which did not happen back then but some parts of the prophecy like the disgusting thing did happen back then. So how can we harmonize and reconcile all these scriptures? Like the prophecy of Jesus coming on a colt and with the clouds of heaven, the prophecy has a dual fulfillment one in 70 and again 1914.
wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
The fact is that we can determine precisely the ending of the Gentile Times right to the very calender month, October 1914
Precisely! Based on a historical fact, the fall of Babylon and using God’s word. Since the kingdom of God and Gentile Times are Bible subjects, in harmony and consistent with the Bible, we need to use Bible chronology and other Bible standards to extrapolate Gentile Times. Even if history seems to conflict with the Bible, we need to use Bible variables to get Bible results. So that means that to interpret prophecy, we need to use the Bible: 70 years. Ironically the 2 Temple fell in 70.
wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
You debunked nothing.
I did. Bible clearly shows Jesus was not enthroned when you asserted he was as my post shows.
wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
Van,
I debunked your belief with my posts citing scriptures showing Jesus was not enthroned in 33. Again, Scholar substantiated 607. WT belief in 1914 is solidly based. It hasn’t been falsified yet. You can have your belief too and si can others.
wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
They are a slippery sort when it comes to rationality.
Not so. It was WT that published this nuance for all to see. And it was I who disclosed it on this Forum in all openness. I did not conceal this.Other religious systems are the slippery ones who refuse to admit when they are wrong. WT admits that they are learning.That is why since crossword puzzles were invented circa1914, wt has been solving it in pencil not in ink. But as scholar pointed out, the Gentile Times ended in 1914.
wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
Yes, as I see it, Jesus was enthroned at his Ascension.
You can believe that but it is not supported by the Bible because Jesus did not begin to rule as king. For example consider Rev 11:1-14 had not occurred at Jesus ascension then Rev11:15 Also Bible clearly says that Jesus was only sitting at God’s right at that time.
So. clearly he was not ruling as king because if so he would be sitting on his throne in heaven. At that time he couldn’t do that because Satan was there in heaven ( “until I put your enemies as a footstool..” alluding to being cast to God’s footstool, the earth). Jesus’s enthronement is described in Rev 12, later on when Satan was cast to the earth.
wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
Hi Van,
Relating to the subject matter of this thread, I’ve already posted that scholar validated 607 as plausible. In other words, it hasn’t been debunked . You can have your personal feelings about the wt but what is interesting is if you could prove wt theology is wrong. Sure they continue to learn and understand God’s word but that doesn’t discredit them. IMHO, their work in interpreting and publishing the Bible is remarkable and after the Bible writers who gave us God’s, it is the greatest Bible educational work in human history.
