every time Jesus specified (hutos genea) this generation in all 4 gospels, it always referred to his own unbelieving generation. Van,
Since the text encompasses the parousia it could apply to it too.
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Simple Question Re 1914
by Slidin Fast inwt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
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Simple Question Re 1914
by Slidin Fast inwt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
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Hi Van
Your flight" means that some in Christ's audience would experience the vengeance of God if they could not escape in time. Your organization acknowledges this.
We know in hindsight that was the case in 70CE for those that failed to use discernment when Gallus surrounded Jerusalem. There were other variables that could prevent people from escaping even if they wanted to. Some that were preventable some that depended on the individual relationship with God. A pregnant woman had plenty of time to flee 66CE because the siege came in 70. If that is a pattern for us today there is a symbolic application.
The context of the fleeing is not symbolic
Fleeing is not symbolic. However, the 2nd seige of Jerusalem occurred in the Spring. The first siege by Gallus also applied to everybody inside Jerusalem at the same time and season so how could winter and Sabbath apply to only one The focus here is: the individual, his flight and prayer to God.
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Simple Question Re 1914
by Slidin Fast inwt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
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Hi Van
The context of the fleeing is not symbolic
Fleeing is not symbolic. However, the 2nd seige of Jerusalem occurred in the Spring. The first siege by Gallus also applied to everybody inside Jerusalem at the same time and season so how could winter and Sabbath apply to only one The focus here is: the individual, his flight and prayer to God.
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Simple Question Re 1914
by Slidin Fast inwt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
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Fisherman
Hi Van
The context of the fleeing is not symbolic
Fleeing is not symbolic. However, the 2nd seige of Jerusalem occurred in the Spring. The first siege by Gallus also applied to everybody inside Jerusalem at thevdame time and season so how could winter and Sabbath apply to everybody at the same time. The focus here is: the individual, his flight and prayer to God.
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Simple Question Re 1914
by Slidin Fast inwt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
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Fisherman
So what generation do you believe Jesus was referring in Matthew 24:34?
We know for sure generation applied to his time in terms of time because the end came in 70CE. We don’t know how the word generation applies to 1914. We believe it does apply because generation in that verse also encompasses the Parousia.
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Simple Question Re 1914
by Slidin Fast inwt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
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Fisherman
Fisherman: Yes
I already explained that Sabbath and winter are for everybody but the verse says ”YOUR flight” so axiomatically symbolic. You can do whatever you like pray or not pray but God's word tell us that we need to supplicate God.
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Simple Question Re 1914
by Slidin Fast inwt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
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But the timing can not be anticipated.
Hi Van
Daniel 9 predicted the timing when Messiah would come in the first century. The 7x prophecy predicted 1914. Revelation explains the horses of the apocalypse and the birth of the kingdom and ousting of Satan and other parts of the Bible also explain events that occur during the Parousia connected the end of the Gentile times. But the proof of the Parousia to Christians is Math 24, etc: WWI, famine, preaching— which seems ordinary. Trying to keep it brief.
And when it does occur no one will be wondering if it happened or not.
You trashed again what Jesus said about Noah’s days:
Where is this promised Parousia of his? Why, from the day our forefathers fell asleep in death, all things are continuing exactly as they were from creation’s beginning.”
This applies to ridiculers who refuse to see and will be shown when Jesus is revealed.
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Simple Question Re 1914
by Slidin Fast inwt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
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“Brevity is the soul of wit.” —Polonius
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Simple Question Re 1914
by Slidin Fast inwt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
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Fisherman
“all the time making supplication”
This ties in with Jesus’s literary device to pray that your flight doesn’t occurr on the Sabbath, etc.
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Simple Question Re 1914
by Slidin Fast inwt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
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Fisherman
The point is that the people in Noah's day were carrying on as normal totally unaware of the coming deluge
They should have taken note that a deluge was coming. Noah was building an ark in plain sight
Don’t throw the rest of the Bible away again
In a time that you think not, the Son of Man will come.
- “36Keep awake, then, all the time making supplication that you may succeed in escaping all these things that must occur and in standing before the Son of man.”
- So, during the parousia, there are signs, events that they would see occur so they aren’t unaware, but what they don’t know is the time of the climax of the parousia when the son of man is revealed.