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  How Will They End 1914 Teaching?

  by EmptyInside in

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  i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.

  instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .

  they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .

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  The great crowd comes out of (i.e. survives) the great tribulation and those people did not even live to see it.

  How does that debunk 1914? And how does mistaken interpretations of the Bible by JW falsify the Bible or disqualify JW as God’s agency?

  How would you explain to a survivor of Auschwitz that what they were told in 1935 was wrong?

  In Rev, Jesus told the congregations back then that he was coming quickly but they died and he never showed up. When they were faced with persecution and death did they suffer from amnesia? And how about Peter and the other Apostles, did they lose faith? JW don't need WT to validate the reality of their relationship with God and the conviction that the promises about eternal life are true whether or not WT interpretations about timing are mistaken. The 1935 was a flash of light nevertheless because it clarified the two destinies.
  
  
  
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  Bible MIRACLEs!! Are they a Myth or Emeth?

  by Fisherman in

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  the bible records miracles such as resurrections, angels, prophecy and destructive acts of god to mention a few.

  are these all a pack of lies?

  how do you explain them?

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  Yes of course he did. At least lots of people say he did.

  Names, dates, locations.

  You equate the Bible with this guy. They are not the same.

  Millions are convinced that Joe Smith was given the book of Mormon, Billions believe that M0hammed was given the Kor€n but how does this have any effect whatsoever on the validity of the Bible even if those beliefs are not true? The internal substance of the Bible substantiates it as credible.
  
  
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  Bible MIRACLEs!! Are they a Myth or Emeth?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
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  the bible records miracles such as resurrections, angels, prophecy and destructive acts of god to mention a few.

  are these all a pack of lies?

  how do you explain them?

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  Are the thousands of witnesses to Sai Baba's miracles mistaken?

  Red herring argument, cofty.

  More than testimony from the product user needed to validated. Did he resurrect anybody?
  
  
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  Bible MIRACLEs!! Are they a Myth or Emeth?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the bible records miracles such as resurrections, angels, prophecy and destructive acts of god to mention a few.

  are these all a pack of lies?

  how do you explain them?

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  Thousands of eyewitnesses have recorded their testimony

  Promoters of the product. Whereas in the Bible, enemies and non believers were forced to see. With the Jesus miracles, the Jews don’t question the power only the source, for example: Toledo Yeshu.

  
  

  Mother Teresa was an odious hag who made a cult out of suffering.

  —To you. I was referring to her miracles that got her a spot in sainthood.
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  How Will They End 1914 Teaching?

  by EmptyInside in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.

  instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .

  they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .

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  teachings that sprang from the 1914

  Regardless of mistaken conclusions about the proximity of the end, the eyewitness testimony and the events believed to fulfill Bible prophecy substantiate 1914 —as JW see it. What to say now, nothing happened in 1914? The date is written in stone for JW.
  
  
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  Bible MIRACLEs!! Are they a Myth or Emeth?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the bible records miracles such as resurrections, angels, prophecy and destructive acts of god to mention a few.

  are these all a pack of lies?

  how do you explain them?

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  Yes there are many witnesses to Shirdi Sai Baba doing all of those things

  That is falsifiable or verifiable. Mother Teresa may have performed more miracles seems to me. You must be implying that the Bible is a fraud, a myth.
  
  
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  2023-01-27--Civil Unrest!

  by Atlantis in

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  2023-01-27--civil unrest.

  click image to enlarge.. .

  https://postimg.cc/gxqvnfcq.

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  How that is being interpreted is GT.
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  How Will They End 1914 Teaching?

  by EmptyInside in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.

  instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .

  they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .

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  they ditch 1914, they'll have to ditch the Gentile Times prophecy, and the Last Days in general

  No, the implication is that the events came to pass. A shift from the importance of date to the events. So the exact date is not important anymore because the events prove the date. However, since there is testimonial of evidence by the anointed that they experienced the sign occurring in 1914, are the going to say that they saw but they don’t know when? That is not what WT means. What they mean is that although they experienced the sign in 1914, that is all they can testify to because they cannot see Satan actually kicked out and the moment when that happened. But since there are events that substantiate the date and testimony of the sign, how are they going to say that never happened.
  
  
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  How Will They End 1914 Teaching?

  by EmptyInside in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.

  instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .

  they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .

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  about 1914

  That is true. I’ve pointed that out on this forum but what was WT implying vis-à-vis what you conclude they meant?
  
  
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  Bible MIRACLEs!! Are they a Myth or Emeth?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the bible records miracles such as resurrections, angels, prophecy and destructive acts of god to mention a few.

  are these all a pack of lies?

  how do you explain them?

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  Fisherman

  There are tens of thousands of witnesses to the miracles of Shirdi Sai Baba

  People say the same thing after taking an aspirin. Let me know when he has the power to resurrect the dead from the cemetery or give sight to the blind or hearing to deaf minus glasses or a hearing aid. But that guy is another subject. If the Bible writers were lying then the Bible is a fraud but reading the Psalms and other Bible books of wisdom, those guys weren’t lying, I’ve concluded. Only my conclusion but I haven’t detected deception.