Before the pandemic, a lot of people were calling in. I can see and end to zoom once the national emergency comes to an end because there is no longer any need for it. So people can then just call in and listen without zoom like before covid.
Fisherman
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Jehovah's Witnesses: Zoom Cancelled Love Jehovah Go Back to In Person Meetings
by HiddlesWife inthis is a new video posted by the exjw critical thinkers jt & lady cee:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvmulzbczvm&t=1s.
i had a hunch that wt was going to do so, but this is happening quite soon.
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How Will They End 1914 Teaching?
by EmptyInside ini'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
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Fisherman
TD,
I’ve expressed to you how I hold you in high esteem. I also follow your logic.
I will have to read your reply about the Ransom . I’ll get back to to you. But getting back to the German brethren, how would it have been possible for them to have avoided being persecuted? What is your view?
I think of the Israelites going to war against the uncircumcised and some obviously died. I think of the three Jews thrown into the furnace instead of choosing idolatry. Paul, the early Christians, the movie, The Crucible. I don’t think Germany offered alternative military service and if someone signed they renounced their faith, they would be lying. I don’t see a way around it. In weakness, I can understand how someone could compromise to the Reich but it was the wrong thing to do. Explain what JW leadership could have done to avoid persecution of the brethren without breaking God’s laws?
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How Will They End 1914 Teaching?
by EmptyInside ini'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
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Fisherman
TD,
What is your point about tge application of the ransom that you alluded to in your comment?
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How Will They End 1914 Teaching?
by EmptyInside ini'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
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Fisherman
Then it has nothing to do with the question I asked.
I don’t know what you mean. I was responding to your implication about the faith of German Bible Students when they realized or if they realized as you assert that they didn’t have to go through all of that and when the end didn’t come when expected. I’ve implied that it more than a JW belief struggle with government
I'm afraid you're going to have to do a little homework..
I don’t know what is your point here.
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Bible MIRACLEs!! Are they a Myth or Emeth?
by Fisherman inthe bible records miracles such as resurrections, angels, prophecy and destructive acts of god to mention a few.
are these all a pack of lies?
how do you explain them?
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Fisherman
You seem incapable of following a simple, rational argument. Carry on
You are not arbitrator but only an advocate. The straw man you reference has zero effect on the Bible miracles.
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Bible MIRACLEs!! Are they a Myth or Emeth?
by Fisherman inthe bible records miracles such as resurrections, angels, prophecy and destructive acts of god to mention a few.
are these all a pack of lies?
how do you explain them?
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Fisherman
Arguing with you is like playing chess with a pigeon
Kill the chess player and think you win?
Red herring argument. The subject of discussion is the Bible.
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Bible MIRACLEs!! Are they a Myth or Emeth?
by Fisherman inthe bible records miracles such as resurrections, angels, prophecy and destructive acts of god to mention a few.
are these all a pack of lies?
how do you explain them?
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Fisherman
Cofty, immaterial. The subject is the Bible miracles.
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How Will They End 1914 Teaching?
by EmptyInside ini'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
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Fisherman
They were not members of the great crowd. They were not even prospective members of the great crowd.
Nobody is until they come out of the gt.
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How Will They End 1914 Teaching?
by EmptyInside ini'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
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Fisherman
f you believe that view expressed in that quote has been adjusted and there is some other basis (Other than a chronological understanding of a generation) to identify "prospective" members of the great crowd today, then I would appreciate a reference or two.
I remember discussing this with you on another thread. Obviously, being an actual member of the great crowd depends on surviving the GT. It is also obvious that the WT previously taught a deadline for GT connected to 1935. The point is that those 1935ers died and were not members of the Great Crowd because they died and did nit survive the gt.
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How Will They End 1914 Teaching?
by EmptyInside ini'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
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Fisherman
don't think you're coming to grips with the question. Anointed Christians were willing to endure the horrors of the arena for the crown of heavenly life.
That’s not what I’m pointing out. It shockingly came to that horror but Jesus had said he would come quickly and when he didn’t, they didn’t forget about the evidence although his return did not realize. When beliefs and interpretations about 1914 turned out to be equivocation everything else that was known to be true was not struck down.
How would you explain *.*
Should I resort to winning an argument, or to fallacy; Like an apologist or a defense lawyer. I think you are implying a weakening resolve to the harkening to no blood transfusions. What you seem to be implying about the Brethren in Germany during mustache’s reign is that their death was negligent and could have been avoided. And the explanation is: “I’ve eaten, Ive wiped my mouth and said, I’ve done nothing wrong. Our intention was good although it needless resulted in human deaths, now let’s move on.” Decisions that have resulted in innocent lives with no accountability. I think that is what you are saying? But is that truly the case and an honest representation of what happened?