i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
2 Chronicles 36:20,21 — 20 He carried off captive to Babylon those who escaped the sword, and they became servants to him and his sons until the kingdom of Persia began to reign, 21 to fulfill Jehovah’s word spoken by Jeremiah, until the land had paid off its sabbaths. All the days it lay desolate it kept sabbath, to fulfill 70 years.
It is not that complicated.
jerusalem will be trampled by the nations until the gentile times are fulfilled.
— luke 21:24 .
the bible book of luke records jesus prophecy of the last day with his parousia including the verse about the gentile times.
So, the "times of the Gentiles" start in 70 CE
How could that be since Jerusalem had been under Gentile rule since the destruction of the first Temple. So therefore the Gentle times had to begin when Jerusalem lost its sovereignty and the Jews were subjugated. Even after the restoration, Gentiles ruled Jerusalem, from Babylon to Rome and beyond so the trampling must have begun in the past and Jesus must have been referring to the completion. The nature of grammar is that another meaning is possible, but trampling beginning in the future doesn’t make sense for the reasons I explained.
Interestimgly, Jehoiakim was appoimted king of Judah by Nebuchanezzar in Babylon during the deportation so technically he was the last king of Judah but purely a mockery and totally insignificant and meaningless . A king over nobody.
jerusalem will be trampled by the nations until the gentile times are fulfilled.
— luke 21:24 .
the bible book of luke records jesus prophecy of the last day with his parousia including the verse about the gentile times.
The grammar in Luke indicates a period that hadn’t started yet in Jesus’ time.
I disagree. The wording even in English describes an action already started that has not been completed. The wording can also be used to describe action with a future beginning but that is not the case here as I explained in my OP.
i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
Grammar whether Hebrew or English
Daniel 9:2 — 2 in the first year of his reign I, Daniel, discerned by the books the number of years mentioned in the word of Jehovah to Jeremiah the prophet to fulfill the desolation of Jerusalem, namely, 70 years.
i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
Franz had a talent for continuity
Franz can add nothing more today. The device was built and the button has been pushed. This thing is bigger than Franz and everyone else put together.
However, His method of understanding the Bible is the mental training received by JW. Although a lot of his conclusions didn’t turn out that way his method is the method . His grasp of the identity of the Gen 3:15 woman is amazing using his method.
TD never stops to amaze me with his perception.
a participant here that most of us thought very highly of.
Who was that?
I have quizzed autistic with savant lesser degree type memory and it is amazing.
i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
along with the other nations round about, for 70 years.
The subject in the Neviim was Zion. In this case Judah. The subject continues during and after the deportation. The conduct, punishment and restoration of Zion is the topic theme of the Prophets. The only conclusion as far as I read is a literal 70 year desolation applied to the Jews who broke the law covenant and were being punished with ironic justice.
jerusalem will be trampled by the nations until the gentile times are fulfilled.
— luke 21:24 .
the bible book of luke records jesus prophecy of the last day with his parousia including the verse about the gentile times.
Jerusalem will be trampled by the nations until the Gentile Times are Fulfilled. — Luke 21:24
The Bible book of Luke records Jesus prophecy of the last day with his Parousia including the verse about the Gentile Times. Therefore, the Gentile Times end during Jesus’s Parousia.
King Zedekiah was prophesied to be overthrown and Jerusalem would be without a king until the one having the legal right came, Jesus. The angel Gabriel told Mary that God would give Jesus the throne of David. How long would it take for the rightful king of God’s kingdom to receive the kingdom and begin ruling? Ans: Seven times will pass over you. Those 7X end during the Parousia.
bible says flood occurred approximately 4000 years ago.
that is about *200 generations of breeding to get to the population on earth now.
keep in mind that the population increase is geometric.
This is why they put blinkers on race horses,,,,,so they cannot perceive reality or a wider view.
Not when you are solving for Y with given factors. Whether or not the solution is true depends upon the Bible being true.That is why I qualified the distinction between evidence and interpretation in a previous post. The Bible gives us the story of Noah as historical event, a fact. At present, the interpretation of some scientific evidence appears to challenge the Bible record. However, when interpreting the Bible, the story of Noah is factored in as given.
i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
70 years in Babylon.
God was punishing Judah for their sins same as he punished the northern kingdom. The prophets were sent to Judah with the message and restoration prophecies not to the uncircumcised nation although affected, Jerusalem was the target. I find no other way to interpret the scriptures than Judah spent 70 years in Babylon for idolatry and so the land could rest to pay back its Sabbaths. Archeology will vindicate 607.
bible says flood occurred approximately 4000 years ago.
that is about *200 generations of breeding to get to the population on earth now.
keep in mind that the population increase is geometric.
The point where I begin having a problem is when a religious person casts that "rule" aside when it becomes inconvenient..
JW literature in often wrong on matters of basic science.
