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Basic Blood Questions For Witnesses
by Vanderhoven7 in
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basic blood questions for jehovah's witnesses.

where does the bible outlaw blood transfusions?

(acts 15:29 gen.9:4) .
Fisherman

to frame an argument of similarity (?)

Unlike a kidney transplant or a metal buttress for a broken bone, BT blood is absorbed by the body thereby ingesting it.

My examples are not highlighting relationships but pointing out that when an act such as killing is defined as murder in the Bible and prohibited, the Bible also clearly defines when killing is not prohibited and allowed. Therefore, although there is a difference between eating blood and using blood for medical reasons, the Bible does not sanction any medical use of blood or other use of blood except for ritual, so the Decree ( according to the latest JW commentary ) not only refers to eating blood but also involves medical use in a blood transfusion.

(All of the transfused blood in a BT might not be absorbed right away but similar to the y chromosomes you mentioned that showed up in the blood stream of the mother (assumed true) any trace blood of the fetus will be absorbed or ingested in time by the mother with no evidence of y chromosomes.)
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Basic Blood Questions For Witnesses
by Vanderhoven7 in
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2. beliefs
basic blood questions for jehovah's witnesses.

where does the bible outlaw blood transfusions?

(acts 15:29 gen.9:4) .
Fisherman

TD
I must confess that I enjoy your kind and elegant style.
Moral equivalency is not established by similarity. It is established via a logical construct.

The Bible distinguishes shedding blood with murder. 1 Ch 22:7,8

The Bible distinguishes lawful sex with adultery.

The Bible distinguishes burning incense to gods and as ritual prayer to Jehovah.

The Bible distinguishes the act of drinking wine or eating from a ritual.

The Bible does not distinguish eating blood from ingesting a gallon of it via IV.
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Jerusalem will be trampled by the nations until the Gentile Times are Fulfilled. — Luke 21:24
by Fisherman in
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jerusalem will be trampled by the nations until the gentile times are fulfilled.

— luke 21:24 .

the bible book of luke records jesus prophecy of the last day with his parousia including the verse about the gentile times.
Fisherman

Fisherman, I prefer Jesus' interpretation.
Vidqun, I prefer Jesus’ interpretation, obviously the one I posted. But everyone can have their view.
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Jerusalem will be trampled by the nations until the Gentile Times are Fulfilled. — Luke 21:24
by Fisherman in
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2. beliefs
jerusalem will be trampled by the nations until the gentile times are fulfilled.

— luke 21:24 .

the bible book of luke records jesus prophecy of the last day with his parousia including the verse about the gentile times.
Fisherman

The context of the Scripture is at the return of Christ, the time when his kingship is undisputed. In 70CE, Jerusalem had no Davidic king. The only explanation of Gentile times must refer to the period of time from Gentile rule over Jerusalem until the parousia.
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Basic Blood Questions For Witnesses
by Vanderhoven7 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
basic blood questions for jehovah's witnesses.

where does the bible outlaw blood transfusions?

(acts 15:29 gen.9:4) .
Fisherman

The Governing Body”have decided that this we may take if you wish”
The statement alludes to the Decree in Acts which implies that the fiat is not only from Rome (“we ourselves”) but from God ( “the Holy Spirit”). If that is a myth, the collapse of the house will be catastrophic with no protection from God which the builders claim it is founded on.
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Basic Blood Questions For Witnesses
by Vanderhoven7 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
basic blood questions for jehovah's witnesses.

where does the bible outlaw blood transfusions?

(acts 15:29 gen.9:4) .
Fisherman

TD,
Very interesting, informative and respected commentary. I don’t want to give you the impression that I don’t appreciate your commentary or that I don’t highly respect you.
Kind regards,
FM
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Basic Blood Questions For Witnesses
by Vanderhoven7 in
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2. beliefs
basic blood questions for jehovah's witnesses.

where does the bible outlaw blood transfusions?

(acts 15:29 gen.9:4) .
Fisherman

What would have been the proper course for the parent of a child
In every case, to save the life of one’s child —except taking the life of another human to save one’s child would be a horrible predicament. In the US a child is the ward of the State and he is getting blood if that is the only way or in the child’s best interest so a parent doesn’t have to worry about it —which Marvin Shilmer argued is disingenuous.

this is still a human interpretation subject to error,
What blood fractions are not blood is subject to error as you have shown. But you have not shown that BT teaching is.
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Did Jesus COME with the clouds of heaven in 1914?
by Fisherman in
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take for example revelation 21: 10. .

“….and he showed me the holy city jerusalem coming down out of heaven from god.

here john sees something happening, action.
Fisherman

diamond in the back. Tv antennas in the back.
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How Will They End 1914 Teaching?
by EmptyInside in
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2. bible
i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.

instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .

they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
Fisherman

DD,
Change indicates appeasement. A never ending supply of anointed to take the role of GB is interesting in the minds of older JW.
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How Will They End 1914 Teaching?
by EmptyInside in
1. watchtower
2. bible
i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.

instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .

they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
Fisherman

I've simply pointed out that we're all bound by the same rules and conventions regardless of whether we believe the bible is the inspired word of God or just an interesting piece of literature.
It is not that simple.