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  Court case Jehovah's Witnesses Norway kicked off

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://cne.news/article/2827-court-case-jehovah-s-witnesses-norway-kicked-off.

  norwegian jehovah's witnesses are in court this wednesday and thursday.

  they are fighting the government's decision to remove their registration as a religious community.. .

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  Fisherman

  Diog

  The government has certain criteria that any religion applying for the hand out must adhere too.

  But they need to be fair about it.

  Also, Let’s suppose that gov forced wt to allowDF family members close fellowship a matter of conscience. Do you think it would change how the JW family members dealt with df JW? No, it would remain the same. In fact, as Barbara pointed out in her post and I also explained in my previous post, JW family members have discretion in how they deal with close df family members. The only exclusion is spiritual association.

  In any event this pressure from the gov to force JW to change their religion to meet their standards won’t work and if JW go to the European Court, I think wt will win because the standard is not fair. Nut it won’t even come to that. Like the Canadian Supreme Court, they will reverse their decision
  
  
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  England: Failure to Report Child Abuse to be Illegal

  by notsurewheretogo in

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  2. child-abuse

  people who work with children in england will be legally required to report child sexual abuse or face prosecution under government plans.. .

  the move - which is subject to a consultation - was recommended last year by the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse (iicsa).. .

  the home secretary told the bbc she wanted to correct one of the "biggest national scandals".. .

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  Fisherman

  There is no legal risk to reporting any crime.

  I agree there is not supposed to be —but some people speak out of personal experience. They turn on the person reporting the crime. Don’t know how it is in other countries but try it in the US. Why this happens is because in all openness, they are sadistic and insidious and delight more in entangling an innocent person than going after a criminal and sometimes criminals have ties with the police or other agencies. Better to mind your business. Even when someone commit s a crime against you, the police wants to force you to come to your house to take the report and nobody is your friend. They tap your phone. They mark you and retaliate. Its better not to report a theft or a robbery or an assault against you. If you want to get involved, be ready for trouble. Even if you are only reporting, they still want to get you for anything they can so you will need to hire a private lawyer besides the DA just in case and that isn’t free. You have to experience it yourself to understand.
  

  Of course, if they already have an agenda like going after somebody they don’t like, they welcome your reports to support their cause in that case but for something personal, don’t count on it.
  
  
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  England: Failure to Report Child Abuse to be Illegal

  by notsurewheretogo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  people who work with children in england will be legally required to report child sexual abuse or face prosecution under government plans.. .

  the move - which is subject to a consultation - was recommended last year by the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse (iicsa).. .

  the home secretary told the bbc she wanted to correct one of the "biggest national scandals".. .

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  Fisherman

  So a person feels outraged and wants to help and reports to the authorities. But now the person is open to being accused of filing a false report and defamation and legal entanglements,having to testify etc.. They start investigating the person making the report and they can turn things around on the person. That’s the way they cut the cookie in some countries and that is why the law needs to be clear. and protect the person reporting and also punish a malicious false report.
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  England: Failure to Report Child Abuse to be Illegal

  by notsurewheretogo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  people who work with children in england will be legally required to report child sexual abuse or face prosecution under government plans.. .

  the move - which is subject to a consultation - was recommended last year by the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse (iicsa).. .

  the home secretary told the bbc she wanted to correct one of the "biggest national scandals".. .

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  Fisherman

  JWs commenting on child abuse is as offensive as the KKK preaching about racism

  Your remark is again based on a false premise. As far as I know, JW have always acted within the ambit of law. You can take JW to moral Court if you don’t like how jw practice their beliefs.
  
  
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  England: Failure to Report Child Abuse to be Illegal

  by notsurewheretogo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  people who work with children in england will be legally required to report child sexual abuse or face prosecution under government plans.. .

  the move - which is subject to a consultation - was recommended last year by the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse (iicsa).. .

  the home secretary told the bbc she wanted to correct one of the "biggest national scandals".. .

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  Fisherman

  There’s been just as much outrage at the latter as there has been at the former.

  I don’t think so. It gives the impression that the concern is disingenuous. If not because it involves churches like JW being accused of not reporting, the goal finding ways to get at the target do you really believe people cared about children until it was a means to target {JW} for example?
  
  
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  Jehovah's Witness Sends Alex Murdaugh Telling Text on Day of Murders

  by Tahoe in

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  jehovah's witness sends alex murdaugh telling text on day of murders.

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  Thank you for this amazing vid.
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  Court case Jehovah's Witnesses Norway kicked off

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://cne.news/article/2827-court-case-jehovah-s-witnesses-norway-kicked-off.

  norwegian jehovah's witnesses are in court this wednesday and thursday.

  they are fighting the government's decision to remove their registration as a religious community.. .

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  Fisherman, what you consider to be a 'bad influence' is way over the top.

  Got it all wrong. Not me. Bad compared to JW standard compared to what non-JW like to believe and practice. Parents may not want the lifestyle of a family member to influence them or their kids and want to stay away. Surely a democratic gov must see that unless they just have it in for jw. If you can’t see, have a nice day.
  
  
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  Court case Jehovah's Witnesses Norway kicked off

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://cne.news/article/2827-court-case-jehovah-s-witnesses-norway-kicked-off.

  norwegian jehovah's witnesses are in court this wednesday and thursday.

  they are fighting the government's decision to remove their registration as a religious community.. .

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  Fisherman

  governments have a right

  Other entities too

  “unnecessarily” breaking up families

  (lol)
  
  

  My friend never a JW instead of just enjoying his JW family calls the grandchildren up to wish them a happy birthday, Easter bunnies and chocolate eggs etc and keeps pushing his morality and beliefs upon his family. So you know what his family did??? On the other hand a JW family I know lets the DF grandfather see his grandkids. He loves them and loves his son so he doesn’t push his non JW lifestyle on them. But JW belief or not what do you think will happen if grandpa is or becomes a bad influence?

  I think it has nothing to do with JW DF standards. Family won’t have anything to do with you if you are a bad influence which is usually the case. Rarely is a df family member good company because they keep pushing their beliefs instead of simply and quietly and trustingly enjoy the grandkids.
  
  
  
  
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  Has the governing body been had by the 'superior Authorities'?

  by was a new boy in

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  nyc mayor praises jw's for obeying authorities.

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzy5xtr5gvg.

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  Fisherman

  The US is a democracy. The people are the superior authority. Agents of THE PEOPLE such as a police agency of a municipality must have legal authority to compel. A municipality or a government agency can enforce laws but they have zero legal authority to go around intimidating people or coercing people or telling people what to do just because they are gov employees. They are public servants not kings or queens. The public is not legally required to be in subjection to non compulsory demands just because someone is a gov employee. For example 1A, 4A are rights people have. The public is foolish to surrender such rights confused they are being in subjection to the superior authorities. In the US, all it means is to be law abiding. You have no legal obligation to be in subjection to someone who is violating your rights or encroaching on your freedom.
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  Would I be disfellowshiped for this?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if a publisher openly told the elders that they thought the gb were wrong about some or a lot of things, but said they will not share these thoughts with anyone else then would this be a case of disassociation disgfellowship?.

  my guess is lots of elders meetings and shepherding calls to try to get you to say something they could use against you.. but what would be the sin in which you are not repented?.

  the only reason to be dissed is non repentance?.

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  Openly admitting and questioning anything as the GB being as wrong

  Obviously if you phrase it like that specifically mentioning gb.