Posts by Fisherman

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My defense speech before the judicial committee

dear brothers!.

we have gathered here because, according to your claims, i have apostatized, and as elders, it is your duty to maintain the purity of the flock.

it seems now that someone has contaminated it, apparently.

Fisherman

I do think it is valid to defend yourself by claiming that your accusers have it wrong

For example if someone hits you and you retaliate by hitting them back. The State charges you with assault and you claim self defense and the State has it all wrong cuz you say the laws should be different and they took the land from the Indians and you are a sovereign citizen so you don’t need a driver’s license. By legal definition that is assault and not self defense.Some supporters may like what you say but in the jurisdiction of the church over you, you committed apostasy and you are not repentant. Outside the jurisdiction of the church you can call pink elephants a defense or believe whatever you like.

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My defense speech before the judicial committee

by Disfellowshipped-Brother in

dear brothers!.

we have gathered here because, according to your claims, i have apostatized, and as elders, it is your duty to maintain the purity of the flock.

it seems now that someone has contaminated it, apparently.

Fisherman

How is the speech relevant or a defense?

1. You are a member of JW

2. JW elders have jurisdiction over you.

3. JW have a code of conduct that all JW must follow

4 You were being accused of violating the JW code of conduct. If you want to be a JW you need to try to live by the code.

5. A defense is showing you didn’t break the code or mitigating why you did. Your speech doesn’t do that, it challenges JW. That is not a defense. If you don’t believe in JW religion start your own. JW are not going to change because you don’t like JW anymore.

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The currently missing 'Titan' submarine. What do you think?

by SydBarrett in

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any opinions are just speculation, but my guess, being morbid, is that there was not a hull breach and implosion (although that would have been the most merciful fate for them), but instead the amateur level of building this thing meant that it lost power and communication and got itself tangled in the titanic's wreckage or is sitting on the actual seabed with no way to release ballast to resurface.

terrifying.

what's your gut feeling?

Fisherman

could've built the Titan

Nahh. Too expensive and too heavy and not doable. The hull must have been built with a steel alloy or at least titanium. My guess without doing the math is a hull 7+ inches thick, seamless with no windows. When I read carbon fiber??????!!!!!!!!!! I could not believe it. Without doing much thinking who in his right mind would go to the bottom of the ocean in carbon fiber. Don’t these billionaires have google?

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Leaked. Nov 6th Secret Boxes

by Beth Sarim in

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self-aware npc has an upload that the ""top-secret"' elders only secret boxes is a drum roll here......a new brochure.....ta dahhhh🤪.

i mean how more dramatic can we get..

Fisherman

likely change.

Not saying much. Want people to conclude that it will change without knowing anything, so it is only a guess. Who knows?

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How Do You Know You Are In The Wrong Religion?

by Vanderhoven7 in

i believe this list which many of us worked on needs to see the light of day again...and added to if possible.. you know you are in the wrong religion:1. when the all important question is not: "do you believe in the lord jesus christ?"....but....

"do you believe in the "faithful and discreet slave" appointed in brooklyn in 1919?"2.

when you will be refused baptism if: a. you don't believe jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bc (whereas all non-jw scholars, all encyclopedias and all history books say this event took place in 587 bc.)b.

Fisherman

Disgraceful, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Their children smile at you.

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How Do You Know You Are In The Wrong Religion?

by Vanderhoven7 in

i believe this list which many of us worked on needs to see the light of day again...and added to if possible.. you know you are in the wrong religion:1. when the all important question is not: "do you believe in the lord jesus christ?"....but....

"do you believe in the "faithful and discreet slave" appointed in brooklyn in 1919?"2.

when you will be refused baptism if: a. you don't believe jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bc (whereas all non-jw scholars, all encyclopedias and all history books say this event took place in 587 bc.)b.

Fisherman

If the children were going to grow up and enslave you. Or if you were enslaved by their parents and you prayed to God. Would you want relief or not?

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How Do You Know You Are In The Wrong Religion?

by Vanderhoven7 in

i believe this list which many of us worked on needs to see the light of day again...and added to if possible.. you know you are in the wrong religion:1. when the all important question is not: "do you believe in the lord jesus christ?"....but....

"do you believe in the "faithful and discreet slave" appointed in brooklyn in 1919?"2.

when you will be refused baptism if: a. you don't believe jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bc (whereas all non-jw scholars, all encyclopedias and all history books say this event took place in 587 bc.)b.

Fisherman

Having 'seen' the Father's child killing atrocities in the Old Testament

Vengance was not proper when pharoh killed firstborn of Israel?

“However, Samuel said: “Just as your sword has bereaved women of children, so your mother will be most bereaved among women.” With that Samuel hacked Aʹgag to pieces before Jehovah at Gilʹgal.” —“Vengeance is mine I will repay.”

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How Do You Know You Are In The Wrong Religion?

by Vanderhoven7 in

i believe this list which many of us worked on needs to see the light of day again...and added to if possible.. you know you are in the wrong religion:1. when the all important question is not: "do you believe in the lord jesus christ?"....but....

"do you believe in the "faithful and discreet slave" appointed in brooklyn in 1919?"2.

when you will be refused baptism if: a. you don't believe jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bc (whereas all non-jw scholars, all encyclopedias and all history books say this event took place in 587 bc.)b.

Fisherman

How do you know when you are in the right religion?

If Mr. Ed talks back.

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The currently missing 'Titan' submarine. What do you think?

by SydBarrett in

jw
friends

any opinions are just speculation, but my guess, being morbid, is that there was not a hull breach and implosion (although that would have been the most merciful fate for them), but instead the amateur level of building this thing meant that it lost power and communication and got itself tangled in the titanic's wreckage or is sitting on the actual seabed with no way to release ballast to resurface.

terrifying.

what's your gut feeling?

Fisherman

Apparently they detected the implosion so knew the sub was toast on Sunday The wreck was exactly as expected - directly below its last known position

My thoughts exactly. That should have been the very first and obvious place to look. Now all of a sudden after spending so much time and money and publicity, they solve the problem after time ran out. They must have known all along. Such events are tools politicians use to distract.

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would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

were you more happy pimi?

are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.

Fisherman

People confuse and conflate and commingle what they in fact know with what they believe and what they conclude. For example if push comes to shove and one had to put his own head on a plater and your life depended on it, one only knows that God exists. Everything else related to religion requires faith. Another example is the theory of evolution that humans evolved from lower organisms: You just don’t know.