Posts by Fisherman

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"How Long Would Jesus' Reign Be?"

by BoogerMan in

simple enough question for a jw to answer, because the org has told them for over 100 years that, .

a) jesus would reign for 1000 years, and.

b) that his reign began in 1914 when he became king.

Fisherman

He experiences time very differently than people do

So when the Bible uses the term tomorrow, God means a thousand years from today or even longer. That’s funny. Obviously, God understands how humans measure time inside the universe and the terms people use to describe lengths of time so if God wanted people to know “when”, the Bible would speak in those terms but in Genesis a day doesn’t mean 24 hours and “short” and “quickly” actually mean a very long time in Revelation as human experience time. So,Bible terms about experiencing time are totally meaningless to people since thousands of years is not actually quick and a century is not actually short. The words are used to keep people in constant expectation and on their guard. They also appease and assure and limit and warn. For example,100 years and going = “And just a little while longer and then wicked one will be no more..”

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"How Long Would Jesus' Reign Be?"

by BoogerMan in

simple enough question for a jw to answer, because the org has told them for over 100 years that, .

a) jesus would reign for 1000 years, and.

b) that his reign began in 1914 when he became king.

Fisherman

In Revelation the Bible describes the Millennium occurring after Armageddon.

Before Armageddon, Revelation describes Jesus as “now have come to pass…the kingdom..” so Jesus rulership begins before Armageddon. How long Jesus rules before Armageddon is a good guess.

After Armageddon, Revelation describes the Millennium as 1000 years in length assuming it means a solar year times a thousand and a thousand literarily means the quantity 1000. Can we be sure that the “Millennium” is literally 1000 solar years long with the book of Revelation describing itself as being symbolic? Let me know. Also don’t confuse believing with knowing.

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"How Long Would Jesus' Reign Be?"

by BoogerMan in

simple enough question for a jw to answer, because the org has told them for over 100 years that, .

a) jesus would reign for 1000 years, and.

b) that his reign began in 1914 when he became king.

Fisherman

It does however become increasingly incredible to view 1914 - present as a “generation”, plus the devil was cast down following 1914 “knowing that he has a short period of time”. That “short period” is now well over 100 years and counting,

100 years is obviously not a short period of time —literally. “Short , soon, a little while” can be spiritualized or poetized to mean just about any guess. When you tell someone I’ll be there shortly, you are implying that they are going to have to wait. A century later is not shortly though. But Jesus also told the congs in Revelation that he was coming quickly 2 thousand years ago. Time did pass quickly for us alive today but actually 2 thousand years later is a very long time. Time passed quickly from billions of years ago too but that is not saying much. The words are literary device describing certainty bur not length of time. 2000 years is quick and 100 years is short.

No doubt God will make his word come true but obviously you cant interpret words like short period or quickly on their face.

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Lots of empty seats at Jehovah's Witnesses Convention in Tucson, Arizona

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

https://youtu.be/5926nhzyz90.

the jehovah's witness 2023 convention theme is, ''exercise patience''...by looking at the attendance at this tucson, arizona convention, it should be changed to, '' jehovah's witnesses...running out of patience''.

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Fisherman

Less congregations in each convention so less people. Less than 2k?

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Anyone know what this sculpture is of the "torture stake?"

by charity7 in

hey guys!

i'm new on this site and am a non jw here married to a jw.

my husband's family are active members and they daily post articles on facebook from jw.org which i know is meant for me to see and read.

Fisherman

“Just like Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, the son of man must also be lifted up.” —No cross beam.

Just like nehushtan was idolized, so is Jesus.

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Moral responsibility.

by nicolaou in

no subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.

please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.

a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!

Fisherman

DD,

They will take your land and your living from you and your children and legally give it to your enemies and their children and throw you in prison with vermin and make you a mockery and a slave So you you pray to God and he takes action. “ Be gentle with the baby bed bugs, God because my blood legally belongs to them.”

God will wipe out everything that is oppressing you and bless you and your children because he loves you. Or you can have it your way. Don’t pray for relief.

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Moral responsibility.

by nicolaou in

no subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.

please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.

a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!

Fisherman

but allows children to die or commands followers to kill “innocent” children that just happen to be born in another tribe isn’t all-loving…

You got to look at the whole picture. For example, You love and protect your daughter but you also let people live and do whatever they want. But if they cross over your fence, you are going to pray to God to stop them. And he means business.

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Moral responsibility.

by nicolaou in

no subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.

please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.

a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!

Fisherman

Proves, not assumes.

There is no such proof that humans evolved from lower organisms.

If you can't see how love evolved you are blind.

It can be argued that the application of love or justice are social constructs but they exist on their own. Neither did truth and logic evolve.

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Moral responsibility.

by nicolaou in

no subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.

please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.

a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!

Fisherman

Morality is a product of evolution

Horsefeathers. First because false premise assumes evolution and because substances such as justice, love, kindness, etc., exist on their own and didn’t evolve.

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R & F JW's ARE agents of the org....

by BoogerMan in

....despite the cult's denials.. w51 6/15 p. 378 par.

23 the spirit, the organization, and the word - his theocratic organization recognizes your authority from his word, the bible.

so it uses you as one of its representatives in the field and it co-operates with you, supplies your needs, and renders you assistance..

Fisherman

Not legally.