Posts by gespro

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This bothers me

by Soledad in

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/10/national/10mlk.html?pagewanted=print&position=

may 10, 2004 honor for dr. king splits florida city, and faces reversal

by abby goodnough

Is Blacksheep feeling guilty or something. Or maybe your just angry at stupidity the way I am. It would help to get a perspective on the 'real' history of this country and understand why different people feel the way they do on this subject. This isn't an easy discussion.

Yeah, alot of us were there during the riots. Things were very different in the 60's for people of colour and hadn't really improved for the majority until things had heated up so much, something had to give. I'm thankful that there was a man like Martin Luther King,Jr. who took a peaceful approach at getting basic human rights honoured. Without that example of love being shown by some prominent figure, we would have had a major bloodbath on our hands in this country. I know that for a fact, being a little boy growing up in that time period.

Some folks are still fighting a battle to have recognition for contributions made by people of their colour. They weren't asking for P.Diddy Avenue. These are the same people who had to look at George Washington Ave. Do you guys understand what I'm trying to say? They have that right to at least try for something like that. And, the White Supremacists' prescence was enough to turn this thing into a racial issue. Do you think you would have backed down if you were black?

So there is a lot of deep seated animosity among people still in this country but I don't have to be apart of that hatred.

I'm the great-grandson of African slaves and Native Americans. Do you even understand the implications of this? Do you understand how trauma is passed along from generation to generation? Taking away the slavery spin, I know it's bad enough without having that in your history. Life is bad enough.

I know the accounts of former slaves and the only thing I know to do is to let all of that crap go and carry on into a new day with others who might have a family history that is contrary to what my family experienced.

Thunder Rider:

I'm sorry some idiot said that to you. Next time tell the fool you had nothing to do with the massacre of all the black businessmen that ocurred in St.Louis in the early 20th century and stop being a coward and taking it out on the innocent.

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This bothers me

by Soledad in

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/10/national/10mlk.html?pagewanted=print&position=

may 10, 2004 honor for dr. king splits florida city, and faces reversal

by abby goodnough

gespro

Ya know, in one sense, I can relate to folks not wanting to get their street address shanghied (sp?) It's a major pain! but I know Florida all too well to ignore this thread.

Cullen Smith said he would have preferred to name the street after Abraham Lincoln, who he said had done "more for the black people than just about anybody."

Interesting topic in itself. I beg to differ...Here are some more folks who aren't familiar with the history of 1) what Lincoln was actually doing and why 2) how Florida was 'attained' in the first place.The Floridians hated Lincoln! The history of Florida is amazing, but I won't go into that now...

But I wonder, sincerely, what would have happened if they did vote to rename the street after Lincoln?

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Double standard in " Society"?

by got my forty homey? in

today while at work at reminsing about the old days as a joe wit i recalled what a horrible life sisters had in the truth.

if conducting a study in they must wear head scarfs, they were not allowed to give talks alone, they had a very strict dressing standard, makeup, dresses, jewerly, they couldnt even apply for bethel (at least when i was younger there were hardly any single sisters in bethel).

conjurs up images of a friendlier burgaless society with polyster suits.

gespro

If you look at the Eden account, Adam and Eve lived outside, wore no clothes, and ate raw fruit and vegetables.

Well, heh,heh, we know what happened there, don't we...lol

OW!

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The "What If" Game

by copsec in

i ask a question, the next person answers my question and then asks their own and so on.

so i will start off with....... .

what if animals could talk?

gespro

I would definately become a shrink specifically in the area of adult child trauma and the effect of cults...

What if it were mandatory for all MD's to do their self help/self analysis before they were accepted into the medical fellowship?

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So-called "experiences" about courting/marrying non-believers

by Gopher in

i don?t remember exactly where in jw-land i heard these experiences, but i believe they were passed around through word of mouth rather than through assemblies or publications.

urban legends?

you decide.. experience #1. faithful jw girl is dating a fellow who is studying (or was recently baptized) in order to win her love rather than because he believes jw doctrine.

gespro

Never heard Experience #1

Did hear #2 in the late 70's not from the platform, though.

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The "What If" Game

by copsec in

i ask a question, the next person answers my question and then asks their own and so on.

so i will start off with....... .

what if animals could talk?

gespro

He would probably have some awesome bootleg tapes of Sam!

Oh Dan-O...there's your cue. We've been waiting practically two days...

What if we could fly our cars like the Jetsons?

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Best live CD's?

by DanTheMan in

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i was listening to dire straits on the night in the car today, what a great cd.

your latest trick and on every street are standout tracks, whoever it was playing the sax that night was incredible.. so what are your favorite live cd's?

gespro

Anything Live by Bob Marley but my all time favourite from childhood:

Hendrix- Band of Gypsies

Side two at full volume...

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Few Black/African people on this board

by Joker10 in

jw
friends

a while ago it was asked what your ethnic background was and only 2 said they were some percent black.

why do you think few black people actively speak out against wt?

few african-americans can be seen protesting at assemblies.

gespro

Gespro: African/Native American (which, by the way, many of us so called African/Americans are...)

Oh, we're here. But some don't feel the need to wear it like a badge until some insensitive fool crosses the line. You know who you are...

I've seen posts here that have set humanity back about 100 years. On the other hand I also see sensitive people who have been hurt, abused and tossed about like they don't count in life. That hurts me to see anyone mistreated in such a way.

I don't want to be narrow minded when it comes to humanity. The us/them kind of thinking has never been a part of my life when it comes down to skin color. It's a weak conveinient way to group a people together - by skin color. Approaching it this way, we don't have to think beyond the visual and we can just packege this one or that one into a stereo type.

sorry for the rant

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