Posts by itsallgoodnow

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20/20

by SnakesInTheTower in

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i dont know if this has already been posted..but 20/20 has this as one of its segments tonight (fri 11/20/09 9pm cst..abc).

devout jehovah's witness is suspected of murdering his wife of 19 years in cold.

snakes (rich .

wow, that was interesting. the 911 call... wow. so, he already knew his wife was dead but in the first 30 seconds of the 911 call, he's only talking about the "burglary" and not mentioning his wife. and not a drop of blood on him... he didn't go to her, shake her, roll her over hoping she was still alive? please! and the laptops and the cash were still there, but the old desktop was gone? wow.

it's like he knew how to cover up the blood evidence, but everything else, he was plain stupid.

the life insurance policies taken out only a few months prior with only his prints and the money problems before that, the paint chips from the broken door on the car that he was supposedly driving at the time of the "break in", the carefully placed open drawers, the ... OMG... internet searches! wow.

I watched this show with a witness family member who couldn't bring themselves to think that he did anything wrong. direct quote "she could have done those internet searches". yeah, and she's the one who's dead. right.

Playing the devil's advocate though, when a murder like this is done by a Catholic or anyone else in an accepted mainstream religion, you don't hear the media mention the religion. If it's JW, mormon, or any type of "fringe" group, or Islamic or something, you hear about it. Maybe they were just using the "preacher man" spin to draw viewers, but you can't blame the religion for this happening. Really, how fair is that?

I was just looking at a newpaper article from somewhere in that area where this crime took place, and there was a comment from a reader that seemed to point the finger at the religion, and I just have to say... that's really not fair, based on what I saw on the 20/20 show.

Now, if the elders knew things and didn't come forward in the police investigation, that's another thing, but I don't know if that had been proven, and they didn't mention that side of the story on 20/20 last night. I wish 20/20 had discussed that, too, if there was an issue there.

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The Prodigal son....the real story, was it applied to you?

by restrangled in

i am furious about the latest drama by the wtbs, it pulls on the heart strings of parents...... and kids gone awry...from the wbts society.

not society in general.. i consider this the same as a parent investing in a college education, the kid, either blowing it or not getting a job, you worry, fret, and are thrilled to get the son or daughter back to help them make their way in life.. it has nothing to do with worshiping the wbts, infact, any kids who leave the jw's, are most likely denied their inheritance (if there is any to be had), unless they come back in full force.

those who make their way in the real world are still denied and that inheritance goes to headquarters.

itsallgoodnow

I guess the thing I had a problem with was that the prodigal son fell in with some non witness girl and some friend who was "bad news". I guess. I was only half listening. I guess it was the girl that really did it. You know. Sex.

But here's what they had happen to this guy. He hangs out with this girl, she turns out to be a real pain in the ass for him, as all worldly people are, you know. And then, I am sorry if I am spoiling this for anyone, there's this drunk driving incident where the the guy's friend was driving and the two chicks got hurt and the bad news friends wanted him to take the fall for it. You know, all worldly people will stab you in the back, just give them a chance. And the dude winds up in jail. They actually have uniformed police escort him off stage, and put him in an interrogation room.

Because, kids - that's what's going to happen to you if you leave Jehovah.

Yep.

My mom cried. I laughed. Inwardly, of course.

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End of the Year, End of the Board Thread

by Farkel in

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what say ye?

this is, after all, an end of an era of the most important jw discussion board since any boards existed.

major stuff has been revealed here.

itsallgoodnow

I don't visit often anymore, but it made me a little sad a few months ago to see the board was closing. I hope the new "sister" site is as successful and has the same feel. I can't thank this board and the people on it enough, especially everyone who was around back when my eyes were just opening and I was totally addicted to the place. I learned so much from everyone, and I really needed this. I didn't have anyone I could talk to in person about any of these things, and still don't, but you all were here when I needed you, and you were far better than anyone else I know could have been with helping me get it all straight.

Thanks so much to everyone.

Good luck!

And Farkel. You are so precious. I love you, man.

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The Great Apostasy is months away?

by Hiddenwindow in

it's time for "the new song".. same as the old song...it will be a lie.. the teachings will surprise you and the word will be those that can't change and go with the program will be left behind.. it will be so fast it will make your head swim.. as always, jehovah/satan will dangle the carrot of promised knowledge...but you have to committ blindly first.

the knowledge and understanding will come later.

same promise; same lie.. the new teachings will be that humans were an abandoned experiment and the reason the nephilim mated with the women was to try to raise the intellect through the gene pool.. as in the days of noah, the nephilim are rising again.. they will teach you that god is a hoax, created by man.

itsallgoodnow

I hadn't heard anything about the elimination of the CO position, but I kind of wondered. The PO in a hall in my area was on the verge of becoming one, and so far, nothing. I heard he kind went a little nuts and his temper has been flaring. Lashing out at anybody and everybody in the most embarrassing ways. It's all the talk. I had wondered if they didn't make him one because they were phasing it out... he spent his whole life trying to get there, too. what a shame for him. At least now he can focus on building up retirement savings before it becomes too late for him. Personally, I think they are doing him and his wife a big favor.

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HURRICANE IKE!!!

by White Dove in

who of us will be affected?

please report in so we will know you are safe when it's over.

what are your plans?

itsallgoodnow

I'm in Houston, too. Hoping it won't be too nasty here. I'm really worried about people who stayed on the coast, but I don't think it will get too bad here. fingers crossed, of course. still a few things left to do, like pay bills... I don't think I'll get a chance if the power goes out for awhile. Some parts of Baton Rouge still don't have power weeks after Gustav. Trying to prepare for that, and trying to stay positive overall.

And I'm so exhausted. I hope I can stay awake for all the late night excitement.

Good luck to anyone else in Houston or on the coastal area.

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Graduation and elders meeting!

by why??? in

hi everyone, i'm not new here just haven't posted in a while.

for those who remember me i'm graduating from college on wednesday!!!!

i'm very happy but there's still a dark cloud (pardon the dramatic-ness) i am still with my non-jw boyfriend of almost three years and i've let my parents know that we want to get married (next month) and they went and told the elders(they did it kinda behind my back) who now want to meet and talk with me!

itsallgoodnow

dawg, I was born in, too. And still, I know now that I should have trusted that nagging feeling I had, instead of trying to be a people pleaser before I got baptized. I don't think anyone saying anything would have helped me, either. If someone "courageous" enough did speak to me then, and if the elders didn't squash them before it ever reached my little ears, I would have thought they were a rabid apostate from the devil. I probably wouldn't have listened. There were people I needed to please. Still, I accept full responsibility for my situation because I know why I got so far into it when I did.

People need to take responsibility for themselves. Otherwise they will always be a victim in need of rescue.

You are just getting impatient. Who knows how many decades of apathy it will be before this whole thing goes down? I may not see the end of the WTBS in my lifetime, and I really don't care. Once you accept the fact that you played a role in this, that of the person who didn't do his research before getting involved in a scam, you will see how irrelevant it is.

This is just one of many many abusive cults, and isn't anywhere near being as bad as it could be.

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Graduation and elders meeting!

by why??? in

hi everyone, i'm not new here just haven't posted in a while.

for those who remember me i'm graduating from college on wednesday!!!!

i'm very happy but there's still a dark cloud (pardon the dramatic-ness) i am still with my non-jw boyfriend of almost three years and i've let my parents know that we want to get married (next month) and they went and told the elders(they did it kinda behind my back) who now want to meet and talk with me!

itsallgoodnow

Your silence, and anyone else's, only lets those idiots continue to destroy more and more families. After I post you'll see many people attacking what I say... they'll say that they can't lose their famlies and the like, but there are many on this site that told the truth, and some of us gained and lost family members in the process. But sometimes you make a stand for future generations.

Do you really want on your conscience more and more generations of people losing their families because you didn't speak out? Allowing fools to tell someone that going to college is wrong, that licking your partners privates is a disfellowshipping offense and so many more things that keeps people from obtaining happiness that it'd take a book to post it all?

This is a war, and we are losing because we have too many weak minded sheep in our trenches. Don't be one, your opposition may save someone else... those still in that know it's all crap may find courage to take a stand because you showed courage.

Dawg, people are going to do what they are going to do, with or without people speaking up about what they know. They won't let your voice be heard anyway, so it's a moot point. Religion is a freedom allowed by government law, and it's up to each and every one to decide what he wants to do. People must, including you and me, accept their part of the responsibility of getting involved in the first place. Why don't they check it out first before getting too far in? If I had, I wouldn't have gotten baptized. I don't blame anyone but myself for that, and I don't blame people who didn't speak up.

I don't want to save people. I think people should save themselves. I don't care if you got disfellowshipped and it was hard. Fading is hard, too. The whole thing is just so irrelevant. I don't care about future generations of witnesses. they too will have a responsibility to make sure they are doing the right thing for themselves. There is a world of information waiting for them, if they want to access it, and it is their responsibility to do so in order to make the best decision for themselves. Not my responsibility.

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The Steps Between JWism and Atheism

by compound complex in

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friends

greetings, friends:.

i recently put up a thread entitled "when can i comment?

" new to the thought process of critical thinking, i have felt overwhelmed by the wealth of information now available to a mind opened up to society-banned material.

itsallgoodnow

Everyone's journey out of the WTS is going to be different, and not every person becomes an atheist. In my case, once I (finally!) figured out JWs were lying all along, I had lots of questions about things, and unfortunately nobody to talk to about them. Or maybe that was a good thing. Because it was a daunting task to think I had to figure everything out without talking to anyone and without anyone in my family finding out what I was doing. I decided I didn't have to find out the answers to my questions immediately, that I had the rest of my life. I researched many ideas before I felt comfortable with the idea that there is probably not any God out there. Giving yourself time to figure things out gives you the freedom to let your questions, research, thoughts, and feelings flow naturally.

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Mum aged 22 dies for Jehovah

by MidwichCuckoo in

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mum aged 22 dies for jehovah.... http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article427045.ece.

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itsallgoodnow

itunes Skeptics Guide to the Universe discussed this on Nov 7th. I just found it today because I'm way behind on my podcasts. It's interesting what they said about it, that the husband is blaming the doctors for not doing enough, and they also talked about the AJWRB.

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They came to my door this morning

by knock knock in

i started not to answer but opened the door anyway.

nice enough people and so full of compliments.

"it's such a nice quiet area you live in.

itsallgoodnow

they are all the same, baptists, evangelicals, jws, whatever. they use the same tactics and are equally fanatical.