I commend you for bringing out these things. Keep doing so everytime you recall something important like this. It would be interesting to know who the 3 honest Circuit Overseers were. They were and are heroes.
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DOES ANYONE REMEMBER BLACK SEPT. 1971 N.Y.BETHEL
by new boy inthat was when 200 brother's went to 3 c.o.s at bethel to ask for justice, beccause their overseers where doing unscriptual actives!!!
i was there to tell them of what my overseer of the launrdy said to me the statement was "that brother over there {pointing to gary kennedy} will die at armagedon, because of his actions!
do you believe that keith?
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PRESS ROOM OVERSEER KILLS HIMSELF?
by new boy indoes many one have more info.
about richard wheellock's death?
i heard he had a nervous breakdown after his wife died, they shipped him off to the farm, he set around for months in a bathrobe, never saying a word.
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anewperson
Randy wrote "The stay for many Bethelites was not as happy as mine. This space is reserved in honor of Richard Wheelock who jumped to his death during a time of despondency and Thomas Hagen, who committed suicide not long after leaving Bethel (incidents not related). There have been more than a few suicides at Bethel (or immediately thereafter as in the case of Thomas)."
How many JW parents would want to send their kids there if they knew about these suicides? Putting names to them makes the statement that Bethel has driven some to suicide more credible. Besides the 3 discussed lately how many others have suicided at Bethel?
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More on the Bryant Tragedy
by Farkel inhere are some excerpts from todays oregonian regarding the bryant family tragedy.
on the night of his 17th wedding anniversary, robert bryant pulled a $100 bill from his wallet and bought a box of 12-gauge turkey shot, officials said monday.. sometime that feb 23rd evening, the bryant family went to bed.
later, robert bryant got up, loaded two shotguns and shot each of his four children at close range.
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anewperson
There are a lot of secretive policies:
1) letting pedophiles preach at doors
2) refining/disciplining/harassing those who bankrupt
3) refining or sifting out independent thinkers
4) expelling adults doing "secret sins" of oral sex and masturbationAll denied as the also secretive Theocratic Warfare policy allows. Hypocrisy, stress.......... sometimes suicide.
False statements:
1) JWs are the happiest people on earth
2) this is a spiritual paradiseSad
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PRESS ROOM OVERSEER KILLS HIMSELF?
by new boy indoes many one have more info.
about richard wheellock's death?
i heard he had a nervous breakdown after his wife died, they shipped him off to the farm, he set around for months in a bathrobe, never saying a word.
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anewperson
When was this? 70s, 80s, 90s??
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Oregon suicide Coincides. Jah Christian Gr.
by avengers inoregon suicide coincidences: here are some watchtower/jw-related suicides in oregon other than the bryant family tragedy: in brookings or area elsie wilson (61) died 1992 by suicide after being disfellowshipped for tobacco use, in keizer or area ernie miranda in his early 30s died in 1989 or 1990 of suicide with gunshot wound to head in redmond or area judy kohler in her 40s died during 1983-88 from suicide.
do you yourself know of a suicide tragedy you'd like to share?
you need not give your actual name of course..
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anewperson
The information came from www.ajwrb.org's JW Memorial section. Avenger, why is it you clip out so much of the information such as the fact that the newsletter credited ajwrb?
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Oregon suicide Coincides. Jah Christian Gr.
by avengers inoregon suicide coincidences: here are some watchtower/jw-related suicides in oregon other than the bryant family tragedy: in brookings or area elsie wilson (61) died 1992 by suicide after being disfellowshipped for tobacco use, in keizer or area ernie miranda in his early 30s died in 1989 or 1990 of suicide with gunshot wound to head in redmond or area judy kohler in her 40s died during 1983-88 from suicide.
do you yourself know of a suicide tragedy you'd like to share?
you need not give your actual name of course..
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anewperson
At that it didn't mention the suicide-murder by... was it something like Omongo??
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Watchtower says Dos and Don'ts are out
by ozziepost inamong the latest instructions to the rank and file witnesses is this one:.
"following bible principles, we will avoid trying to live (or demand others to live) by an extensive and rigid set of dos and don'ts that go beyond the teachings of the bible.
" (the watchtower - issue of april 15,2002, page 22, para 15).
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anewperson
Some of your posts of late seem to offer the idea that there will be true reforms if we only wait.... and wait..... and wait... and wait.
That is not and will not happen. When the skin of an old wine bag is ruined you toss it away for patches won't hold.
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disfellowshipping and suicide
by LyinEyes inmy mother had been a faithful witness for 16 yrs, she got addicted to prescription drugs and things got very bad for her.
she overdosed one nite and was put in rehab.
she began smoking after rehab and was disfellowhipped for it, she got a letter in the mail .
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anewperson
LyinEyes, which state or province was this in? You can privately email me at [email protected], or if you wish to say nothing further then we understand that too. A memorial website will be going up in memory of those who suicided and were JWs or Watchtower-impacted and to inform and deter others from becoming endangered by WTS doings.
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A really ugly warning to all JW's
by Mindchild inif u r a dub dont go 2 anymore assemblies!
it is possible that you will die.
really.. this is not a nice friendly post to any active jehovah's witness but is something they should read anyway.
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anewperson
What they'd want to watch out for might not even be a device but germs. For example what if a terrorist smeared feces on a glove and those are full of staph, possibly diphtheria etc then used that glove to open the doors into and out of convention and assembly websites, the restrooms etc? Let us pray nothing like that ever happens. It would be so easy for them to do that. Someone else said the idea that terrorists might strike a church gathering is reaching but just recently that was done in Pakistan. Two American Christian women were among the five slain and dozens injured after terrorists blew up a church there. Let us pray for kindness to reign on earth some day as abundantly as in heaven.
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Need Info With OR Murders
by D8TA ini live in nieghboring state(wa) that has the nw cable news network.. which is the only information i have available on this story in oregon.. problem is, the reporting is vague.
a vague statement being made is that this person who comitted the murders "had kept his children isolated from family members".. my question is: "are the family members also jehovah witnesses"?.
if so, that the family members are jw's, shouldn't someone start telling these media types that it's the jehovah witnesses that practice isolation against ex-members?.
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anewperson
Besides the Bryant suicide-murder case, 3 previous JW-linked suicides in Oregon are given below:
OREGON:
Brookings area Elsie Wilson age 61 died 1992 by suicide after being disfellowshipped for tobacco use
Keizer area Ernie Miranda in his early 30s died in 1989 or 1990 of suicide with gunshot wound to head
Redmond area Judy Kohler in her 40s died during 1983-88 from suicide
Source: Memorial records on http://www.ajwrb.org which contain some who direct-suicided among a greater number who died after refusing transfusions.