Chucking. Brooklyn will find the sledding much tougher in the future. Going door to door will get information into the hands of those who do so. smile-smile-smile
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The meeting did not go well.
by Danni init would have taken more much more time to tell it all.
he told us the meeting would began as soon as the other brothers arrived.
danni: i will give you two.
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I went to court with an elder and his wife
by Mulan inlast week, i was in court for two days to testify in a custody hearing for the son of my best friend, who is a witness.
she asked her husband, an elder, if i could ride with them.
so for two days, we sat together in court, and went to lunch together, and talked on the phone several times.
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anewperson
Posting to let you know I read it. Thinking you're somewhere up in the Northwest U.S.
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Help me get to the root of the library card issue!
by sunscapes inunited nations .
dear ms. xx,.
the procedure for a library pass is the following: the interested party needs to fill out an application form and supply a letter of recommendation in support of the research.
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anewperson
I believe it's the Nov 22, 1998 (or was 99?) Awake that was devoted to the UN, had warm friendly interviews with UN staff, a picture of the UN's head, article on the UN's first ever head of the Human Rights Commission Eleanor Roosevelt etc ad nauseum pro-UN, and copies of it or parts are at www.freeminds.org and www.observer.org Go there type in UN or United Nations in the search box, or look for sections on it that you can just click.
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Who is the President of the WTS?
by Ivor Hope inhow many jws know the name of their current president?.
everyone knows about russell, rutherford, knorr and franz.
most know about henschel but i haven't come across any that know the name of the current pres.. i believe it's don adams - and he doesn't even claim to be one of the "remnant"!
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Adams is controlled by those who authorize those who can disfellowship (excommunicate) him. Who's that? The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. So all smoking guns still point back to Milt who's supposedly half senile, Jarasc and the other old boys including but of course that youngster whom they would love to blame for it all the most .......... Sam Herd. They think they can make Sam their fall-guy, but Sam's a little too smart for that. He'll pay his dues, then when Milt and a couple other dudes die he'll kick Adams and the rest in the rump to start clicking. By then though the whole ball will be unwinding fast,... already is. Watch India and Britain.
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The Absolute "Climax" in My Life as ...
by Erich intoday i experienced the absolute "climax" in my life .
the first words he spoke to us, when we asked him about the state of health of my aunt, were: .
at this moment we were aware of the fact that my aunt always spoke the truth about this man; but she was unable to help herself.
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Erich, if you take this man to court then other people will also begin taking him to court.
This sort of thing happens more often than many people would think but because in all nations it has been covered up.
Erich, I have started to list some of the places where greed, money scandals and other problems occur and are hidden. Look at this:
SUMMARY TO DATE LISTING JW CONGREGATIONS IN 3 NATIONS SO FAR:
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Croydon congregation in Victoria ("dried as dust")
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Anfield: nepotism, greed, arrogance Falmouth in Cornwall (elitism, cliques, lying, coverups) Fort William in Scotland: man presumptuously disfellowshipped when trawler he sold sank claiming lives until case won on appeal Heaton in Newcastle "genuinely friendly," humble elders Llandudno in Wales: corruption/theft Maindy in Wales: --- Manchester, Irlam (scandals, wierd happenings) Milton Keynes - Fenny Stratford: overlording, later burnt down Peterhead: marking St Ives, Cambs: arrogance WSM: gossiping
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ALASKA: Special Comment: Several persons in and outside Alaska have commented that there is too much class (rich-versus-poor) consciousness. ARIZONA: Shea Heights in Scottsdale: favoritism etc Tempe -- Wickenburg: infighting,jealousy, self-rightousness Tuscon --CALIFORNIA: Chino Hills & Chino North: many hypocrite pioneer "elderettes," gossiping, greed, nepotism, cliques Oceanside -- Santa Barbara North, South, & San Roque: soap opera-like intermarriage intrigues Santa Cruz North -- Special Comment: This state probably has the most or greatest percentage of JW's in the United States. One comment (no proof) has been that two main leaders among ex-JWs groups in California are actually pro-Watchtower moles which is why activities there are kept relatively quiet. On the other hand, anti-cult internet work by Randall Watters (freeminds.org) has been especially intensive and effective.
CONNECTICUTT: Danielson -- North Stonington -- Putnam --FLORIDA: Rio Grande in Tampa (nice, loving) Special Comment: several of the larger JW congregations in Florida are said to have problems of gross misleadership. One hall in the middle of the state may have seceded in the 1980s ILLINOIS: Addison (favoritism, unwanted sexual advances) Canterbury in Markham: favoritism, snobbery Glen Ellen (fast-talking, backstabbing) Wicker Park in Chicago (no details) INDIANA: Richmond (incompetence) KENTUCKY: Draffensville close to Paducah (pedophilia, harassment) * Special Comment: home to excellent anti-child molestation work by Bill Bowen who resides near Paducah; see his www.silentlambs.org website. MAINE: Augusta: pedophilia, Larry Baker convicted * MASSACHUSETTS: Cambridge: lording it, arrogance East Southbridge: nepotism Oxford Congregation Sharon -- Worcester South -- Worcester North -- MISSOURI: Cabool (pedophilia) * Richmond (pedophilia, Tim Gardner convicted) * Special Comment: Note the two halls with pedophilia. In the 1980s some elders donned sacks and protested outside a convention site. Some comments are that the many congregations have clear indications of cult spying, both visual and electronic NEVADA: Wood Heights: pedophilia - Daniel Stevens Fitzwater convicted *
NEW HAMPSHIRE: Hollis: pedophilia, Gregory Blackstock convicted * Wilton: pedophilia, Paul Berry convicted * Special Comment: Indications are that there may be additional lawsuits in and around the state of New Hampshire. Fundamentalists have also been more active here. NEW JERSEY: Bradly Beach: harboring molestor & shunning victim, nepotism Hawthorne: pedophilia * Hackensack: pedophilia * Hatboro on route 263 in Warminster: spying, coverups of affairs, nepotism Jackson: pedophilia/statutory rape incident * Nottingham: paranoia, harassment Pemberton/Browns Mills: greed Ramapo: pedophilia * Paterson: ignoring incest NEW MEXICO: Special Comment: This state may have one of the largest concentrations of Hispanic JWs. Therefore anti-cult work here needs to involve more usage of Spanish-language materials.
NEW YORK: Special Comment: This is of course the home of the Watchtower Society. More effective work needs done here. The Watchtower Society appears to have pretend ex-JWs who pretend to be mental cases doing much of the anti-Watchtower "anti-cult" work here to discourage more effect real anti-cult activity in and around its Bethel headquarters complex NORTH CAROLINA: Millbrook in Raleigh: class snobbery OHIO: Medina: insensitive verbal abuses Wellsville: registered with Stratton village for door-to-door sales then sued it Wadsworth OREGON: Eagle Point: business improprieties, dishonesty Rogue River, (business improprieties, dishonesty Shady Cove business improprieties, dishonesty PENNSYLVANIA: Lansdale molesters, gossiping, abuse of power, favoritism SOUTH CAROLINA: Andrews, gossiping, snobbery, mean-spirited, molestation, sex scandals Charleston (all 10 halls), Laurens: sex scandals, favortism SOUTH DAKOTA: Rapid City one the "coldest" ever, harshness, only poor pioneers became elders
TEXAS: Brady: gross incompetence San Antonio (poorer black-white-hispanic very loving Special comment: Many JW congregations in Texas (mostly middle-class up) appear to have a severe lack of love. Bonham, Texas, had a hall that seceded in the 1980s. Much anti-cult work is based in and done in Texas. VIRGINIA: Petersburg (some drunkenness) Virginia Beach (very welcoming) WASHINGTON: Fall City, Washington State: unloving, cliques, anti-college, gossiping, greed North and South Lynnwood: gossiping, backstabbing Port Townsend: snobbery and overlording, greed Ritzville (pedophilia, Manuel Beliz convicted) * Seattle Central: cold to outsiders) W VIRGINIA: East, South and West. corruption, child abuse,* favoritism, selfish Elk Valley of North Charleston: nepotism, pedophilia * Beckley Southglen: child abuse New River: child abuse,* Fidelity Group Inc insurance scam
There are thousands of other examples like those and in many other nations.
Erich, also tell your wife this. Increasingly people can and do study the Bible, show love for Jehovah and His Christ without the Watchtower Society in the United States, Germany etc. Contact [email protected] for more information, please.
My guess is you are somewhere in Africa. Why not inform them there, too? The elder is a thief. Throughout the Bible Jehovah sent good men to expose their evils.
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Corruption within the elder ranks!
by JohnSteadman ini have been serving as a presiding overseer in the united kingdom for over 20 years, in my time i have seen the organisation develop and grow both spiritually and financially.
i have seen elders come and go but more so than any other time i have witnessed lies and cover ups from elders, co's, bethel members which have caused me great upset.
i do not wish to go into any details but would like to warn people of the dishonesty that has become jehovah's organisation.
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John, there are now Bible Groups in the U.S. that are non-Watchtower still holding to the earthly and heavenly resurrections hope but allowing for much greater Christian Freedom of conscience and expression, more emphasis on love than rigidity: [email protected] sends out newsletters to all belief systems including the non-WTS Bible Groups. They are serving Jehovah and His Christ, united by the strongest bond which is Love. Now you know something else they don't tell you or not correctly tell you about.
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Stratton Ohio letter to public.
by biblexaminer insome have read a rough draft of a letter being prepared for the townsfolk of stratton ohio.
some couche potatoes commented on how it'll never work.. the point is, it is not intended to have an effect on the supreme court descicion in a few weeks.
it is intended to get the word out by attaching itself to any publicity associated with the stratton case, as well as having the effect of causing grief to both the wellsville congo who preaches there and the governing baffoons.. here it is, but more revised and going to be revised yet further.
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anewperson
To help you out, Biblexaminer, you can easily come up with some emails for residents in and near Stratton, Ohio. Go to an email directory for Yahoo, AOL or other email companies and enter key search words like +Stratton, +"Stratton, Ohio," +Ohio, +OH and you will see them fast. Next email those.
I see your idea is to inform a community about the Watchtower Society and encourage its residents to give copies of that same information to JWs as they come to the doors. The same approach can be used for Brooklyn, Paducah, various pedophile-scandalized areas. The goal is to show our love for the kids and others, to protect them from the dangers like pedophiles, bleeding to death etc.
Good. Maybe we could work together some on some joint projects: [email protected]
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Regarding MAD APOSTATE
by silentlambs ini wish to make a comment on something that disturbs me deeply to the point i cannot let it pass or be ignored.
a little over a year ago i resigned as an elder to protest wt policy and how it hurt children.
the impetus that brought me to that conclusion was a child i knew personally that was in danger.
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I believe there are boards where anything even victimizing child molestors' victims goes on with the moderator's approval but on this one victimizing raped children and bullying and discouraging anti-Watchtower expose' campaigns and the like is rightly regarded as tyranny. The bullying was from Mad, not Bill Bowen/Silentlambs or Simon. If some of you want to name-call those who disagree with you then add me to the list but if so think: what are your own moral standards about protecting the weak? Would it be fair to give Adolph Hitler free rein on a board to not just speak out but to verbally discourage and crush those trying to speak against his tyranny? To curse and laugh at his victims including raped children? Now I know of you simply enjoy the challenge of word arguing, but this really is something different here.
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Regarding MAD APOSTATE
by silentlambs ini wish to make a comment on something that disturbs me deeply to the point i cannot let it pass or be ignored.
a little over a year ago i resigned as an elder to protest wt policy and how it hurt children.
the impetus that brought me to that conclusion was a child i knew personally that was in danger.
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It's interesting that Simon pointed out that Mad was using multiple accountS.
For those who miss Mad, well, somehow I bet he will be back, and besides which he has his fellow workers. Simon only did what was right.
Mad had plenty of warning and you will also notice that he didn't act that surprise and said he'd take it proudly. So some here are feeling more sorrow that his accounts were deactivated than he does.
But that's a good sign that you are warm and caring people who've also been hurt at some time and so are sensitive to someone else losing the privelege of posting.
There's no particular pleasure in myself or others suggesting action than in Simon feeling compelled to finally have to implement it. He puts up with a lot from all of us, and I commend him for it.
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WT has your info on Disk
by Patriot indogpatchs' post on the u.k.s df'd or da form reminded me of a conversation i had with a sister about 6 months ago who still works in bethel.. she work in the section where the wt makes copies of videos and tapes.. she was called to see the supervisor in of of the computer data entry sections (im sorry but i don't know the exact title of these jobs or "wings"), she had tried to get into that field due to her vast experience in computer networking before marrying a bethelite.. well she said that she walked into the offices only to be told that the sup.
was out for a minute.
while she was hanging out for the sup.
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Inevitably some will hack into and get copies for the media and public. A similar development happened in the 1990s in Denmark. The invasion of privacy issue is a razorblade the WTS insists on holding to its own neck. Why the stupidity? Well, because it's for a kind of Book of Life, and things don't "just happen" - so they say.