bluesapphire is correct. Got an idea. Whoever has Steve Bate's email (he's in Britain) let him know about it and ask him how it can be gotten to the AP. Or email Bill Bowen who I know already has contacts with Charles in Paducah who can help get it into the main newspapers in the States.
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MAJOR PRESS About UN!!!
by OhHappyDay inhawkaw/kent/dogpatch/zev...please make this known!!
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=19781&site=3
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WT Advance Directive - Just the Facts
by Lee Elder inwt advance directive.
there is substantial discussion of this topic in a previous thread that contains the opinions, some informed - some not, regarding the validity of the directive.
i believe that a useful place to begin is by reviewing the medical literature.
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A store robber puts a gun to a woman cashier's head and says give me the money. She does so happy inside herself that he is getting the money from her boss who is a creep. Now she didn't mind complying at all, but she was still, due to the gun's danger, under duress. Same thing with JWs and blood. Many happily sign blood cards though others don't happily sign the cards, but regardless over the heads of both the happy and unhappy signers is the gun of disfellowshipment, hence clear "duress."
For a year or so there have been no new AJWRB articles, no new AJWRB appearances at any conferences. Lee, Wayne, Sam did do (past tense) some nice things and the website is still helpful to those who come across it. My criticism is you have all been sitting on your rear-ends for a year now. I don't respect that, nor do the relatives of those who have died in the meanwhile.
You allude to wanting MONEY. With more money you could do more but even without money you can do a lot. Sam Muramoto must have access to phone numbers and emails of physicians across the U.S. and around the world. So either use those or attend some of the smaller, closer and hence cheaper conferences. Your leaping to dismiss such ideas reminds us of how Alan F also dismisses things super fast.
A little action beats absolutely no action. Now you say Wayne did a lot so great he DID (past tense) a lot. But in the past year what he has done too. I understand and don't blame those who leap to defend what you and he DID but I am reminding you that that was that - past, way past. You said you have a journal article to write. Good, write it then come back here and tell us you did it.
You want low-money ideas. There's no lack of those: put names of dead JWs who died due to Watchtower policy on a boulder in a city park, on private property by a road or whatever. Call in the press and get publicity.
You well deserve my criticisms. Those who defend you are defending the You that was a man of action up to about a year ago, and I do the same. But you do not deserve any praise for doing nothing about this so long now. You burnt out, maybe. I understand, but then so did Wayne and for that matter what of Sam Muramoto.
I'm repeating. You may continue doing nothing but don't think the rest of us will wait for you. Posters here may heap praise on you but that's all you'll get for inaction. Again, want respect to re-ignite and continue for you and AJWRB? Then earn it. Write the article and tell us about it. I'm not wrong to jump you for inaction and you well know it. Maybe a kick in the tail bone is just what you need.... not just me but those bleeding to death doubtlessly hope the same.
Don't waste any more time defending your year of inaction with words here, but write the article and that will be a defence. People will donate money only when they see you're doing something to earn it. For that matter if that's been a problem why haven't you guys done anything to earn money by telling others about this crisis? Put your address and a brief request for donations at the very top of your opening page to show you actually want money to help save some lives.
Repeat for any reader at all, when does Wayne's Presidency ends or does it ever? For that matter when is the last time Wayne cared enough to post here or answer our emails?!!
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My Christmas Tree..belated
by LB inok this is late, but i'm slow... this first one is with my wife and i, she looks happy for a change.. .
here is just the tree.
never squat with yer spurs on
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True Christianity imparts Love, JOY and peace -- and your pictures show all 3 so even if you are now an agnostic, atheist or Buddhist you are in fact much closer to God and His Christ than when closer to the Watchtower Society cult. I'm happy for you.
BTW scholars now say the tree is from the Tree of Paradise in Eden that was used in medieval church plays, not from Druid tree worship. Santa is from Saint Nicholas a noted gift-giver of the Middle Ages, not Siberian wizards or some ancient Asian god.
JOY--a prime fruitage of God's Spirit!
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WT Advance Directive - Just the Facts
by Lee Elder inwt advance directive.
there is substantial discussion of this topic in a previous thread that contains the opinions, some informed - some not, regarding the validity of the directive.
i believe that a useful place to begin is by reviewing the medical literature.
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Whether JWs cheerfully or reluctantly sign the anti-blood transfusion cards in the background always hovers the fact that if they take a transfusion and then don't say they are sorry they did, then they are disfellowshipped. This is duress. A legal document signed under duress is invalid insofar as judges and medical personnel are concerned. However those professionals are mostly unaware of the duress factor.
Your AJWRB.org website hangs there in cyberspace doing a fine job for those who happen to find it there, but out in the real world are doctors and judges who do not know about the disfellowshipment duress and therefore let JWs die! Why don't you phone and write the judges and doctors? We have heard nothing... N-O-T-H-I-N-G... from Wayne Rogers the President of the AJWRB in ages now.
How long is Wayne's term? Is it for life or what? If it is about to expire kick him out for inaction. If it is for life and he keeps trying to choke real-world actions to death by inactivity as he has so far, then start a new anti-Watchtower blood policy website or whatever it takes and do it right this time.
Blood is gushing, Lee. Your posting here once in a while is not true leadership. Lead or get your ownself out of the way. I appreciate what you did do, e.g. the journal articles, but since then you have sat on you hind-end. Move it.
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PATTERSON EXPANSION.
by nicolaou inso much for an 'end to new building projects'.. nic'.
jehovah's witnesses seek to expand campus in patterson.
michael risinit .
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A veritable manion complex for latter day JW Princes In The Earth, modern Christs. Hmmmmmmmmmm.
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no blood cards this year!
by DIM inlast night at meeting they told us to just use our blood cards from last year.
in the past they've always told us how important it was to get it signed every year so that people could see our current views as jw's.....doesn't this new arangement negate everything they've ever said in regards to this?
absolutely nuts!.
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It's Extremist Dreamers versus Extremist Pragmatists.
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COW'S BLOOD SUBSITUTE IN BIG TROUBLE AGAIN
by hawkaw inas i have been warning over and over the hemopure cow's (bovine) blood product made by the company biopure is running into major trouble that seems to be with held by company executives.
now, their financing is about to go down the tubes.
think about this folks.
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Good, Hawk. To the last poster, the Bible shows God did NOT punish Saul's men for eating unBLED meat to live though they built an altar to show contrition that it had been necessary. Further Matthew 12 says David & his men ate temple bred, normally a death penalty, but were not punished because it was to stay alive. When it came down to eating blood with meat or temple bread as opposed to suiciding by starvtion, God okayed obedience to His greater commandment to hold life sacred, i.e. neighborly love. If the WTS has much stock in Biopure & airlines-related business they must be feeling dread now.
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Is there a burning hell???
by sadiejive ini'm just curious what everyone's view of hell is.
i know that most of you were at one time jws and i was wondering if you still held to the no-hell doctrine or if you had found scriptural reasons to believe otherwise.
if the latter applies, would you be so kind as to share the scriptures that have enlightened you?.
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HELL - WHAT'S THE REAL TRUTH ABOUT IT? The main views of hell are that it is literally an after death place of fire, symbolic for the condition of sleeping in death, or symbolic of the lonely condition of not being allowed access to God after death. Most churches in general teach literal fire, most in the adventist family (WWCG, JWs, SDA) teach sleeep, and most Methodists teach inacessibility. In any case it is unpleasant and wicked persons are to fear it.
At that there are additional views or various modified views of hell. For example one is that although fire or the potential sensation of it is itself eternal, God will not necessarily make even a wicked person feel it forever but allow him at least one more chance to improve his condition, unless perhaps in the case of a very very few persons who were so terribly wicked despite being of clear mind that they offended God's own Holy Spirit.
Regardless, no true Christian wants anything but approval from God, and it is comforting to know that Christ notes that God wants two things from us, namely to actively show love for other people as well as God. As Matthew 22:37 puts it:
Jesus replied: "`Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: `Love your neighbor as yourself.'
This will further remind us for example of the story of the Widow's Mite, the Good Samaritan, the hospitality of Dorcas, Christ healing the sick and feeding the hungry. Acts of kindness, of neighborly love. We can act similarly, but note that Christ says we are to kindly treat even persons who do not love us (Mt 5:44, Lu 6:26, 37), and he himself died so that all might live again via the resurrection hope. (Jn 3:16) This is the real truth about hell, so how are you doing, friends? . . . Visit our nonprofit Jah Christians egroup at the following website to request more free Bible literature and information: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jahchristian, or email [email protected]
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A question about Theocratic Warfare
by AjaxMan ini read that term a few times when i was reading xjw sites.. my question is what is theocratic warfare?.
i like to read any example of it as well as other descriptions or any of your experiences.. .
ajax
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It is also used on rank-and-file JWs by those other JWs who have question marks about such rank-and-filers, used for disciplining (refinining, training, testing). A commonplace mark of cults who say their group is God's organization rather crediting God's heavenly supporters the angels and all the true Christians within Christianity in general over the centuries. Being the only correct organization they feel makes it okay to do whatever it takes to purify and refine, sift out impure less-than-godly elements. See?
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Anyone have any controversial "meeting&quo...
by Waygooder64 indoes anyone have any really cool stories about fights,arguments or anything else controversial that happened at the kh or a book study?
the reason i ask is that what happened to danni and her partner will be talked about for ages at that particular hall.
when i was about 16 i once saw 2 brothers arguing over who would take the service group that weekend.the whole congregation was about as quiet as a mouse pissing on a cottonball!
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Just a couple little quick ones. I was walking down the hotel hall when I heard the Circuit Overseer and his wife screaming at each other. Should have heard what they said! Naughty, naughty!!
The hall I was in was shared by a Spanish language congregation. The two congregations locked horns over who was to blame for the microphones being misplaced and the like, also resulting in some should have heard it fights.