just my 2 cents but if i was to post what i would consider to be the single most convincing arrogant blunder of the wt(for me in my time) it would have to be below.
: when i heard this 'proclamation' i, (and many others at my cong) were convinced that this had to finally be it.
because there just was no way the wt could possibly say no babies again and not have it be the final,real ready rapture.
Dan the man...You said it all...
The tragedy of JWism isn't the half-believing JW social club rank and file who secretly chuckle at the excesses of counsel coming from Brooklyn and proceed to do behind closed doors do what they really want to do without feeling very guilty about it. The tragedy is with the guilt-ridden idealistic true believers who *really believe* that the FDS speaks for God and therefore make life-altering decisions based on fear-mongering obey us or die propaganda.
this is the second time in a row the witneses have stood me up for a study.
i give my name and number, and nothing.
not a phone call notta.
I guess I didn't have that infectious zeal that you need to motivate people towards having a bible study. I could see too it was a big responsibility being someones "spiritual mother". You really had to work with people. The average person needs a lot of coaching to get their lives on the JW track. You basically had to take over their lives in order to motivate them into becoming an active JW. This could mean picking them up for meetings, making sure they get to assemblies, teaching them how to act, think, speak and dress like a JW. I guess my I had a hard enough time running my own life without trying to run someone elses.
paragraph 8 thru 9 talked about peoples problems and how they are affecting meeting attendance & service.
then they arrogantly quote matthew 11:28,29 if you read the pragraph they say that no matter what problem.
we have when we go to service or meeting they vanish & our spirits are refreshed.
(((((((((Balsam)))))))) My heart goes out to you. To watch your children suffer under the WT regime is the worst. Thank God your son has you in his life.
(not christians or witnesses of jesus).
.and it was first in antioch that the disciples were by divine providence called christians.
and then when other nations began to study with us, we were called international bible students.
Willy, these are truly the comments (experiences) you will not hear at the 7-18-04 WT Study. In all my years as a witness I never did know these perfectly one sided WT peoples I read about in the WT. Congrats on your getting your family out!
just my 2 cents but if i was to post what i would consider to be the single most convincing arrogant blunder of the wt(for me in my time) it would have to be below.
: when i heard this 'proclamation' i, (and many others at my cong) were convinced that this had to finally be it.
because there just was no way the wt could possibly say no babies again and not have it be the final,real ready rapture.
I well remember that assembly Danny. The message at this assembly was responsible childbearing in this time of the end. It was discouraging parenthood for sure in their typical JW double think double speak manner as usual .
After that assembly a sister in our congo got pregnant. Another very influencial judmental sister in the congo started to spread the word around that this sister was being disobiedient to the FDS, which had directed that we do not have children in this time of the end (so this is the message she got out of it). She said more than that too and it was all rather nasty. This upset the pregnant sister greatly and when it was time for the baby shower judgemental sister called me and other sisters and told us that she was not going to the shower because if she felt if she supported this sister who had become pregant that she would be supporting something that was against Jehovah's direction (of course trying to influence us to do the same). It was a rather ugly chapter in my JW chronicles. Most of us ignored her and I went to the shower and most of the other sisters did too, but I admit she brought up the point very strongly and many had discussions about it . But that mandate was there and stated at the assembly to one degree or another and some picked up on it and ran with it for sure. And on a more personal note, I had only one child because i was married to an unbeliever and didn't think it would be wise for me to have more than that (it was discouraged--not outright--but discouraged nonetheless with a woman in my "position"). My hubby turned out to be a wonderful Dad though and we raised up one great kid, but we would've had more if I wasn't a JW. Sometimes I feel ripped off by that one too. I'm with you on this one Danny...I remember it all too well.
PS. I love the Simpsons and have a whole year episode of them on DVD!!! Great intelligent comedic commetary on the American lifestyle. I imagine the FDS consided it too "thought provoking" as it interferred with their "no thinking allowed" policy
spring, 1991 to december, 1991. we had already moved into the two-bedroom bungalow, i was working at a convalescent hospital (very carefully because of my back condition).... and we had changed to lake hodges congregation, a very nice congregation overall.
in march, i re-injured my back on the job by helping another nurse aide to transfer a very heavy male patient to his wheelchair.
then began a steady round of doctor?s office visits to both an orthopedic doc and a neurosurgeon.....and i was sent to physical therapy.
Frannie whatever you got going here it is certainly interesting and I will continue to read on to your next installement.
very early this morning i was driving to work.
i live out in the country so usually it's rare to see anyone walking down the road esp.
at 6:30 in the morning.
If someone, let's say, Mother Teresa dedicates her whole life to helping people, they will still cast her in with satan and his demons... a pretty bold thing to do, considering that the bogus bible that they read from says that they are not to judge anybody.
Yeh, this one always bugged me even in the middle of my JW days. There are some truly humanitarian people out there in the world, but JWs don't consider their work because they are not working for the ORG. I have an old non-JW friend who volunteers her time in a women's crisis center helping these who were victims of abuse--she can relate and help as she herself was a victim in the past. She is a mentor and a teacher and a wonderful caring person, but to the Org she is wicked and worthy of death because she belongs to another "Christian" religion that is not JW. If my friend was a JW she would not be doing this work, as it would distract and take her time away from working for the WT real estate investment corp and book publishing co.
now i'm blowing off a bit of steam...
(not christians or witnesses of jesus).
.and it was first in antioch that the disciples were by divine providence called christians.
and then when other nations began to study with us, we were called international bible students.
Thanks blondie--good job as usual, but I have to admit I get stessed out reading these articles! the upside of this is that I am SO glad I am not there at the WT study anymore! I remember trying to tell myself these constant reminders must be good for us as I sat fidgeting in my seat, bored to tears as this is the same old same old stuff the WT recycles over and over again.
In the story about the sister that got all 5 children baptised, they don't say anything about their activity today. I wonder if 4 out of 5 (average is about 70% of JW children are not JWS) of those kids are now DFd and the mother can have no loving contact with them.
Yes, I would like to know the real story behind this one. Not long before my exit from the Org there was a Thurs night meeting part about single parents who have successfully raised their children in the "truth." They interviewed a sister (who was not single, but had been married for years to an unbeliever) so guess that qualifies you as being "spiritually single". She had 3 children and she had raised them all up to the point of baptism. Yes, they were all baptized. BUT... One of the sons was marked as bad association because he was living with a worldly woman before they got married. The other son had a mental breakdown has been in the mental hospital a couple of times and is very depressed. He no longer attends meetings and is living with a Dfd relative. The daugther married young to some guy who became a witness just to marry her. He is not into being a witness and they have a lot of problems, expecially with his drinking and all. The sister who they interviewed has some problems herself--very depressed and on medication. She is grieving the fact that she no longer sees her sons...But they used her life as an excellent example of the JW lifestyle! I thought this was very weird, but I guess her story was the best they could come up with in that congo.
if the society decided to not shun persons who were weak, who disagreed or who simply didn't go to meetings and field service, would you still be a jw?
the catholics have all sorts of rules and regulations that should be obeyed yet if one doesn't abide by the law, they are generally never excommunicated.
if the witnesses decided to "just be there" for the "brotherhood", i'll bet that many would not be on this site.
I took the red pill and now I can never go back again. The thought of enduring another WT study at the KH along all the micromanaging of people's lives is just too much for me to bear. Too many lies in a boring wasteland of time.
i remember who my husband was before we were recruited,you know what i mean, his humor,his daringness.
i am sure i changed also but only to an extent because i had to many doughts.
as i quickley ran from the cult ,i could sit back and see the person that i married into the person that the watchtower created.
My sis was a compassionate and loving mother to her children. She spent a lot of time with them teaching them and playing with them--always sweetly loving and attentive to their needs. Now her sons are Dfd and she doesn't speak to them at all. She has cut them off completely and now speaks of them robotically. It is like the invasion of the body snatchers--what have they done with my sister!
