Posts by Incognito

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Why does he stay in?

by Probablyshouldrun in

i was seeing a jw man for about a year and a half until l broke it off with him last week.

we met on a dating site.

he shouldn’t have been on there, of course, but he was lonely.

He is a believer, even if his lifestyle and behaviour does not show it. Although he recognizes his own failings, he hopes God will see he is a good person and will forgive him. Many JWs that are the worst examples, are often the most critical on how others live their lives.

A JW relationship with a 'wordly' person, will often make the wordly person susceptible to influence and conversion to become a JW as a condition to saving the relationship. He might feel that in converting you to become a JW, would offset much of his bad behaviour. It would not be surprising that if you started studying to become a JW, he will become very devout, maybe even fanatical.

Congratulations on undertaking your own research and for not blindly thinking that your relationship will workout and be the uncommon exception.

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What does "The disfellowshipping of xyz is now rescinded" mean

by cognitivedizzy in

it has happened somewhere i know.

what is it and what does it mean.

Incognito

As related to Slimboy's coment, if the person who was df'd, later procured a copy of the manual and realized written procedures were not followed by elders, he/she may then have cause to appeal directly to WT. Since elders are expected to adhere to all instructions issued by WT and as WT letters and written proceedures have been repeatedly used as evidence by courts of law, WT may feel pressured to rescind the earlier determination and announcement due to a technicality which could bite them if ignored.

Although to rescind means to revoke, cancel or repeal, it is not a word commonly used by WT or JWs. Perhaps WT expect by using that word, there will be no grounds for legal action, but JWs will continue to shun the person as a 'Judicial Commitee' found the person guilty enough to be Df'd and the person technically has not been 'reinstated'.

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PIMO Elder with a Dilemma

by xjwsrock in

i haven’t been on here in awhile and this is my second user name because i was busted by my pimi wife on the first one.

i have been basically awake since 2013. i have a super dub wife that i love and don’t want to lose and my sick mom in the hall that is a true believer.

stupid religion has gotten between my wife and i (of course).

Incognito

you'ld think there would be a rebellion about failed false prophecy. - DoC

WT has since conditioned die-hard followers to believe the end coming in 1975, was not an organizational prediction, but was claimed to be statements by a few JWs that were overt optimistic in hoping Armageddon would come then. Even today, if 1975 is mentioned to those that were JWs at that time, most will right away defend WT by claiming WT never predicted Armageddon would occur in 1975.

Many JWs have invested so much into WT, they are unwilling to risk their investment by even entertaining the thought WT might be wrong. When WT alters its dogma and history, many of those that were JWs at the time, will deny the things that were taught which they accepted as "truth".

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PIMO Elder with a Dilemma

by xjwsrock in

i haven’t been on here in awhile and this is my second user name because i was busted by my pimi wife on the first one.

i have been basically awake since 2013. i have a super dub wife that i love and don’t want to lose and my sick mom in the hall that is a true believer.

stupid religion has gotten between my wife and i (of course).

Incognito

Consider using the other elders unloving actions to your advantage.

JWs are frequently counseled to watch their actions so as to not stumble others, but those goons did not consider that you could be stumbled by what they did. You could state you are stumbled as you do not consider that type of behaviour as being appropriate for Shepards of God's flock. Since as an elder, it seems you are expected to act similarly, then you cannot in good conscience have any further part of that, prompting a prime opportunity to resign and step back.

This situation may also provide opportunity to recover your relationship with your wife. You could claim that you recognized this type of behavior from the other elders has been ongoing for some time to other brothers. As it bothered you, you were prompted to do further research to see how common this is in other congregations. Following search links lead to the 'oppostate' sites she had seen you visiting previously.

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Seeking communication

by nikada in

jw
friends

i'd like to contact certain brothers and sisters i formed friendships with during the time i spent in "the truth", as we called it back then.

i was a member of two congregations in hawaii from 1974 to 1984. .

Incognito

Welcome nikada!

Do you continue as a JW or are you no longer associated?

If you remain a JW, you could possibly enquire with the elders by writing to those congregations you previously attended.

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New Massachusetts Bill ProposesTo Fine or Jail Someone For Calling Someone a Bitch!

by minimus in

jw
friends

and if you call someone a bitch , you would be fined 150 dollars the first offense and second is 200 plus possible jail time..

Incognito

Maybe Massachusetts wants full control of all behaviour similar to the futuristic city depicted in the movie "Demolition Man".

Has anyone checked, have all restaurants in Mass been named 'Taco Bell'?

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Forum Navigation

by Incognito in

1) after submitting a comment, the 'edit' feature is no longer shown but i am able to 'like' my own comment.. 2) when i click on my user name in the black band at the top of the page to view my profile, i receive a page indicating server error'.

i'm using the latest chrome browser.

clearing the browser cache, cookies and history does not change the issues listed above..

Incognito

Yes, I did re-sign in before posting above.

Although I did 'like' my post after I posted it, I noticed that like vote was not indicated when I reopened the thread.

Simon, thank you for responding to this thread so quickly. I am now able to again access my profile, and the 'Like', 'Dislike' choices are now no longer shown on my post above while they are showing for your 2 replies.

Edit to add: The edit function is also working again as evidenced by this comment.

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Forum Navigation

by Incognito in

1) after submitting a comment, the 'edit' feature is no longer shown but i am able to 'like' my own comment.. 2) when i click on my user name in the black band at the top of the page to view my profile, i receive a page indicating server error'.

i'm using the latest chrome browser.

clearing the browser cache, cookies and history does not change the issues listed above..

Incognito

1) After submitting a comment, the 'Edit' feature is no longer shown but I am able to 'Like' my own comment.

2) When I click on my User Name in the Black band at the top of the page to view my profile, I receive a page indicating Server Error'

I'm using the latest Chrome browser. Clearing the browser cache, cookies and history does not change the issues listed above.

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Escaping a Christian Cult Podcast

by iwantoutnow in

hello all.. i implore you to the time out and listen to this podcast where sam harris interviews the granddaughter of the founder of the westboro baptist church, about her experience there and leaving.

megan phelps-roper.. the parallels to the jw world are astounding!.

https://samharris.org/podcasts/171-escaping-christian-cult/.

Incognito

Megan P-R was interviewed in 2017 by Joe Rogan on his webcast, 'The Joe Rogan Experience' linked here: JRE #974

During that interview, Megan describes meeting and becoming friends with a JW couple who later became xJWs.

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question about KH finance

by peacefulpete in

i've been free of the jws for many years now and have a question about kh finance.. 1. is it true that all khs belong to the wt now?

2. when remodeling is done who pays for it?.

3. how are utilities paid?

Incognito

Blondie, I'm unsure how to interpret your comment as each country sets its own rules for charity status.

There are numerous congregations and circuits in Canada that continue to retain independent charity status. CRA listing of JW Charities

Often, members will donate funds or provide loans to their congregation for a specific purpose. Funds already held by some congregations specifically for renovating the existing KH or to build new, were confiscated by WT and so the funds will not likely be used for the stated purpose of the donation. The doners were not given an option to either have the funds returned or to donate those funds to WT since WT considers all donated funds belong to WT and may be utilized for any purpose WT decides.