Posts by Incognito

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Preparing for Governing Body 3.0? Making older GB step down? (New September Watchtower)

by FusionTheism in

watchtower, study edition, september 2015, "are you reaching the stature that belongs to christ?":.

paragraph 6: the mature christian shows humility in that he recognizes that jehovahs ways and standards are always better than his own.

[footnote: for example, older, experienced brothers may be asked to step aside from certain responsibilities and to lend support to younger brothers as they take on those responsibilities.].

Incognito

As they consider their positions as chosen by God, their positions as GB & FDS will carry on until death.

While they may train others as Hold Me - TM suggests, a trainee will not assume replacement of a GB member until that GB member passes on.

Previous head honchos ( WT Presidents) up until Fred Franz were presidents until death. During Franz's rein, power was removed from the President and was transferred to the GB so the President then became less significant and therefore replaceable without consequence.

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WT Conspiracy Theory - Pinky Ring - DUMB, I know

by cappytan in

oh man, i know i'm gonna catch flack for this.. everyone sees masonic conspiracies everywhere.. i am not a conspiracy theorist.

i don't honestly believe the governing body are freemasons.. yet, probably due to cruising this site and seeing all the masonic conspiracy threads, i saw this when looking for a shot of lett's pinky ring to show how he wore one in october, but then took it off in may to ask for money.. .

original is on the left, and on the right, i played with the brightness/contrast to get it to show up a little better.. what does the pattern on his ring look like to you?.

Incognito

My thought is that instead of the ring having significance to membership in an outside group such as Masons, the GB may have had rings designed and made for themselves and their 'helpers'. Possessing such a ring could then identify the wearer as a member of the exclusive JW leadership. Since JWs are so fixated on position, differences in color or design could then denote rank or position.

I expect that even if true, anyone in the know would never verify. Just as elders possess their manual which at least earlier on, they were instructed to deny the existence of and not show to anyone, membership rings could more easily be kept a secret since there are so few that would possess one and copies could not be easily made.

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Specific Comments By R&F About May Broadcast

by freemindfade in

i know there are many posts discussing the may money requesting televangalism...er... broadcast i mean!

but i wanted to start one where anyone can put what they have heard any non-exjw, non-apostate witnesses say good or bad about the broadcast.

i don't see how it can't rattle followers... but then again i might be surprised how they can twist things (2+2=5).

Incognito

The WT has a long history of demanding JWs to do more preaching as they are not 'doing enough', with many JWs responding with increased ministry hours, if even on a temporary basis.

I think the current GB think those same manipulative tactics will work in obtaining more money, but it appears that they have overstepped what is acceptable.

It appears many R&F JWs are complaining about the May broadcast and stating their reluctance to continue donating. Hopefully, enough will withhold donations but unfortunately, many will give-in to the guilt tactics and provide at least what they had previously. There are too many that have invested too much of their lives and will not consider that this is not Jah's organization.

While JWs tend to be 'frugal', the WT didn't bring in almost $1 Billion per average year if no one was donating.

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Average Age of this Forum?

by Garrett in

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friends

heyo!.

i'm quite interested in knowing the average age of those of us who use this forum.

i made a quick strawpoll that you can find at the following link: http://strawpoll.me/4340636 just pick an age and click "vote" if you wish to participate.. admins: if this breaks any rules, i apologize in advance..

Incognito

Are those that are posting their ages in this thread, being included in the straw poll?

Currently, there are only 76 votes indicated on the polling site but as it appears to permit only one vote per IP, how are households with multiple ex-jws to participate?

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Just saw this on Facebook

by Driving Force in

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friends

who is this giving glory to?.

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Incognito

FayeDunaway said:

Pretty gross. I've heard you guys referring to dancing at the kh's....what was that about??

Although less dancing than some videos I've seen, linked below is one example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVs6_q7rqps

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March Broadcast- Jehovah is speeding up the work

by adjusted knowledge in

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i watched some of the segments on the jw broadcast.

in the video they showed how they managed their inventory orders for the congregations.

at the conclusion it was stated by the narrator how god is speeding up the work.. the problem is the system they implemented has been used for over two decades in logistics.

Incognito

_Morpheus said:

Long gone are the days when the wtbs was an innovator.

Who said it was ever an innovator? Oh yes, that's right - the WTBTS said it about itself.

It also said it is God's earthly organization.

Outlaw: The hot dog stand photo would have been most effective with a long line of customers waiting to be served, unlike the other photo.

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CO kept mispronouncing "debt"

by Red Piller in

so, this happened a while ago - but i never posted on it.

during a co visit, he gave a talk relating to jesus ransom (i think) and the "debt" that was owed by sin, etc.... he kept saying "debt" and he kept pronouncing the "b".

so it sounded like "deb-t".

Incognito

... the worse one (in Canada) is "Coupe" which they pronounce Coup (like "Soup"). How the hell can a country that has French as an official language not know how to pronounce a French word? It's Coup-eh (like toupe).

Although Canada's origins are from England (Great Britain), there are many words & traits that are 'picked-up' from our American neighbors to the South. Although Coupe has an 'e' at the end, it is most often pronounced as 'Coup' in North America.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut7ysDYPWic

Although both pronunciations are acceptable, the Beach Boys hit song: 'Little Deuce Coupe' wouldn't be quite the same if sung: 'Little Deuce Coup-eh'.

In computers, there is memory called Cache. How should that be pronounced? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rCcV6MiQZ0

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Has anybody been guilted/emotionally blackmailed into attending the 2015 Memorial?

by Bucholz in

hello everybody, i was wondering if anyone has been guilted or emotionally blackmailed into attending the memorial this year.

something along the lines of "if you loved your family you would at least attend the memorial".

i myself haven't attended in 5 years.

Incognito

I had a conversation with a fully indoctrinated JW a few years back.

He mentioned that there had then been a recent 'talk' that specifically instructed that the congregation should be kind and understanding to those that attend only the memorial as the memorial maybe the only meeting they are able to attend due to circumstances. No one else may understand their situation.

He also said that anyone that at least attends the memorial, is acknowledging the JW religion as 'The Truth' and is showing submissiveness to God's earthly organization.

During this same conversation, he mentioned about JWs being instructed to do as they are told without question or consideration, even though what they are told to do may not seem logical or is contrary to what JWs have been instructed previously.

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Letter to a DF Parent

by thedepressedsoul in

thank you for raising me in this religion, this religion that when people get disfellowshipped you have to cut off all communication, even family.

thank you for making sure all of my friends, work partners, family and 99% of my life was centered around this organization.

thank you for taking the time to study with me, read the bible, making me excluded from all school activities and friends so that my whole social life was surrounded by jw.

Incognito

Oubliette,

Thank you for the clarification!

Your reply did not suggest it was written in the manner you now indicate and as TDS put his letter 'out-there' without asking for feedback or suggestions, nothing should be assumed.

edited to add: When I say your letter did not 'suggest', I am referring that there was no introduction as to the purpose for what you had written.

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Letter to a DF Parent

by thedepressedsoul in

thank you for raising me in this religion, this religion that when people get disfellowshipped you have to cut off all communication, even family.

thank you for making sure all of my friends, work partners, family and 99% of my life was centered around this organization.

thank you for taking the time to study with me, read the bible, making me excluded from all school activities and friends so that my whole social life was surrounded by jw.

Incognito

After reading the response from Oubliette, I became under the impression that the OP was from 'thedepressedsoul', written directly to 'Oubliette' thereby making the 'conversation', publically private.

I deleted my initial comment and backed away, implying 'I'll leave you two alone'.