Posts by Incognito

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Jw church's use of titles, how many can you think of ?

by Chook in

gb member , branch overseers, do ( obsolete ) , co , elder , ms , publisher, unbaptised publisher , school overseers, coordinator of body ect ect ect .

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i think jws would win gold on clergy laity class distinctions..

Incognito

Publisher - Pioneer - Special Pioneer - Vacation Pioneer - Missionary (the only titles extended to females)

COBE/Presiding Overseer - Secretary - Service Overseer - School Overseer (obsolete), Watchtower Study Overseer - "The Committee"

Literature Servant - Magazine Servant - Territory Servant - Audio System Servant - Hall Maintenance Servant - Public Talk Servant - Account Servant

If you possess a penis, there was an expectation for you to 'reach-out' to obtain a title.

In addition, there are other titles including: 'In-Good-Standing' - 'Marked' - 'On Restrictions' - 'On Probation' - 'Reproved' - 'Disassociated' - 'Disfellowshipped'

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Seeking Former Elder

by Tricia Franginha in

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hey everyone im desperately trying to locate a former elder from ontario, canada who is willing to talk to a journalist about the sex abuse issue in the org.

this would be a major article in a major canadian magazine but without locating an elder to speak to she cannot do the story.

please help ad we need this exposure in canada.

Incognito

Are you searching for a specific person or any former elder?

If looking for any former elder, why the restriction within Ontario?

What time-frame would be appropriate?

If looking for any former elder, unless he was involved as a judicial committee member dealing with an actual sex abuse incident, it would be unlikely that he would know much about sex abuse in the org to be of assistance.

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How do I quote on this site?

by Nevuela in

every time i've asked this in an existing thread, i've never gotten an answer, so forgive me for starting a new thread in order to ask again.

i simply cannot figure out how to quote someone with the standard yellow box.

i can copy/paste the quote, sure, but nothing i do makes it appear in a yellow box like everyone else.

Incognito

I could up until a couple weeks back.

Likely for the same period Simon has been performing updates and revisions to the site. Poster's join dates are no longer showing for me. Whether that is a permanent change has yet to be indicated.

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How do I quote on this site?

by Nevuela in

every time i've asked this in an existing thread, i've never gotten an answer, so forgive me for starting a new thread in order to ask again.

i simply cannot figure out how to quote someone with the standard yellow box.

i can copy/paste the quote, sure, but nothing i do makes it appear in a yellow box like everyone else.

Incognito

I use IE11 so that is probably why...

Chrome Browser downloiad

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last convention before global attack on witnesses

by Phoebe in

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so it's not enough that i'm dealing with post traumatic stress/anxiety and panic attacks all related to my life as a jw (50 years baptized -- i stopped going a couple of months ago) at 3 a.m. i get an email from the other side of the world.

'you have to go to the convention.

bro sanderson says we must watch the news, things are happening.

Incognito

As far as your panic attacks, as you have been a JW for 50 years, you've had over 50 years of indoctrination and conditioning. You are not going to undue or turn that around immediately or even quickly. For me, even after more than a decade out, the JW conditioning continues to kick-in every so often.

Slow down and Breath and consider the reasons you left and what you have learned since leaving.

Any opposition now being experienced by WT and JWs as a whole, is mainly due to actions they have brought on themselves, not because it's the end of the world. Consider as one example, WT's continued refusal to appropriatly address child abuse within the organisation and the resulting implications with the Australian Royal Commission.

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How do I quote on this site?

by Nevuela in

every time i've asked this in an existing thread, i've never gotten an answer, so forgive me for starting a new thread in order to ask again.

i simply cannot figure out how to quote someone with the standard yellow box.

i can copy/paste the quote, sure, but nothing i do makes it appear in a yellow box like everyone else.

Incognito

I add 3 blank lines (hit Enter 3 times) into the 'Have your say' box, before inserting a quote.

After highlighting and copying the text you want to quote, place the cursor on the first blank line, then click the Quote button to insert a yellow box so as to paste the copied text into the yellow box.

When you want to add your own comments below the yellow quote box, place the cursor onto one of the other blank lines you had already first added. If you added the quote box to the first blank line, the other 2 blank lines will remain below the yellow quote box.

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Drama is about avoiding materialism. GB has $10k watch in one of the videos.

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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Incognito

A good view of another GB member's watch was obtained some time ago. I recall posters here who had studied the images to compare to the real thing, confirmed then it was a real top-of-the-line Apple watch. GJ's images don't really show much other than color and thickness.

Mad I is correct that it isn't having expensive items that is necessarily wrong, but more the obsession and showy display. The conflict is, WT council is always to simplify, be modest and not put-on a showy display of ones means of life. That implies, even if a person can afford whatever they want, they are to be modest and discreet in their choices.

As Jesus did not have a place to lay his head, the GB members as 'Christ's Brothers' and the 'Faithful and Discreet Slave', should be setting an example in modesty. Even if it is a knock-off, it portrays the illusion of being expensive and is therefore, not simple, modest or discreet.

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Today's Watchtower; if GB say celebrity adulation is wrong, why do they pose for pics and sign autographs?

by Isambard Crater in

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says it all really.

total hypocrisy once again..

Incognito

In their view, everyone else is below them in status to even dare suggest they are not acting properly or to question their being chosen by God.

As they consider themselves "Guardians of Doctrine", then the expectation is that everyone else is to look on them in awe and faithfully follow every utterance from their mouths.

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phone scams

by zeb in

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i received a phone call, "is that (name)?".

i was working my way around a car park and answered.

"yeah hang on" at which the caller hung up.. this is a scam where they are wanting you to confirm who you are so they can move on identity theft.. the voice was male clear like a professional announcer.. i have reported this to the relevant authorities.. i have also frozen my bank account..

Incognito

The warnings I have seen by local police, indicate the caller is only attempting to have you say "Yes". They record you making that statement which they edit, copy and insert into a variety of 'agreements'.

You then begin to receive phone bills containing numerous additional fees that you didn't subscribe to.

When you complain to your phone service provider, they will have been provided with an audio recording as proof of you (your voice) agreeing "Yes" to additional services from various 3rd parties. These could be for things such as the $4.95/min. dating or sex sites that advertise on late night TV.

So many people now have certain bills automatically paid directly from their bank account, they may not even look at their bill statement until months after it was paid.

The best approach if you answer a call and are asked if that is you, is to as scratchme1010 suggested, ask in return, "who's calling" so as not to say 'Yes', thereby foiling the attempt to have you appear to agree to something.

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Deflated after realising my inactive friends are POMI

by Isambard Crater in

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i'm going through an extremely hard and dark time right now and really yearned for the support of people i know in the flesh, and i really thought revealing my serious doubts and frustrations to a few close friends who became inactive several years ago would help.

they attend the memorial and no more than 2 sunday meetings each year, and haven't preached for several years, so are still technically baptised-but-inactive.. it broke my heart or at least left me feeling very alone when they all (they don't know each other and live in separate areas) told me that they can sympathise but reckon i should stay with "the truth" (their words, still) as it's the best thing there is.

it's like i'd discovered a new group of people, not pimo (physically in, mentally out, like me) but pomi (physically out, mentally in).

Incognito

people I knew who were not very moral or spiritual but still considered themselves JW's of some form or other. - Giordano

Do you ever consider how those people would act if they did not consider themselves to be JWs whatsoever?