Posts by desib77

So what do you think happens to someone when they die. I learned of the death of someone yesterday that was never a very good person. I can't help but wonder where he is now... Is he dead "aware of nothing" like the JWs always said? Is he wondering the earth? Is he in heaven? Is he in hell? Is he coming back as a cockroach???

Any thoughts on what happens to people once they die? If I don't believe in demons (not sure if I do or don't) then what explains some of the strange things that happen other than spirits of the departed?

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Do you care

by John Doe in

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if you know whether the posters here are male or female?

does it make a difference in the way you interact?.

desib77

nope :)

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Some thoughts on Deism.......

by desib77 in

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so i've been thinking a lot about the beliefs behind deism and a lot of it makes sense to me...... here are a few things that i still wonder about.. if god created us and then left us to our own doing i'm not sure how i feel about that.

i'm very thankful for the chance to have life but on the other hand hate that there is so much suffering in the world.. has he abandoned us or does he just watch?.

if i pray to him, does he listen or is it not worth anything but my own comfort?.

desib77

Spook,

So, you will have to simplify this for me. Theists believe in God and that he cares but that he does nothing? As it stands right now I see no evidence that a loving God interferes / intervenes in life at all. I couldn't wrap my mind around a God that loves us and allows people to suffer or that he would pick and choose whoe gets help and who does not. So, if I come to the conclusion that there is a God who is not involved in our lives at all but that may possibly be entertained by us or even concerned but still does nothing does that make me a Theist? You know, as I typed that it made no sense. It would mean that I would believe in a cruel God such as the one in the Bible. If he is only entertained by us or even just watches and does nothing that seems no better to me.

dark,

I see your point and it may be my JW upbringing but I'm amazed by humans and all that comprises us and life on earth. I'm not even sure where I would begin to prove to myself that everything I am amazed by has a scientific explanation, a way that it could come about without a creator.

lol, sometimes things take a while to sink in with me. I'll definitely think more about what you have both said and may post again later...

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Some thoughts on Deism.......

by desib77 in

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friends

so i've been thinking a lot about the beliefs behind deism and a lot of it makes sense to me...... here are a few things that i still wonder about.. if god created us and then left us to our own doing i'm not sure how i feel about that.

i'm very thankful for the chance to have life but on the other hand hate that there is so much suffering in the world.. has he abandoned us or does he just watch?.

if i pray to him, does he listen or is it not worth anything but my own comfort?.

desib77

yup.......... lol, too bad he isn't around to discuss this with me.... :)

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Some thoughts on Deism.......

by desib77 in

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friends

so i've been thinking a lot about the beliefs behind deism and a lot of it makes sense to me...... here are a few things that i still wonder about.. if god created us and then left us to our own doing i'm not sure how i feel about that.

i'm very thankful for the chance to have life but on the other hand hate that there is so much suffering in the world.. has he abandoned us or does he just watch?.

if i pray to him, does he listen or is it not worth anything but my own comfort?.

desib77

Oh and on a side note......... nobody that I've discussed this with seems very open to the idea of God not blessing them........ go figure.....

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Some thoughts on Deism.......

by desib77 in

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friends

so i've been thinking a lot about the beliefs behind deism and a lot of it makes sense to me...... here are a few things that i still wonder about.. if god created us and then left us to our own doing i'm not sure how i feel about that.

i'm very thankful for the chance to have life but on the other hand hate that there is so much suffering in the world.. has he abandoned us or does he just watch?.

if i pray to him, does he listen or is it not worth anything but my own comfort?.

desib77

So I've been thinking a lot about the beliefs behind Deism and a lot of it makes sense to me...... Here are a few things that I still wonder about.

If God created us and then left us to our own doing I'm not sure how I feel about that. I'm very thankful for the chance to have life but on the other hand hate that there is so much suffering in the world.

Has He abandoned us or does he just watch?

If I pray to him, does he listen or is it not worth anything but my own comfort?

Just some of my thoughts......... I'm welcoming any of yours.

Desi

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I can't get past the bitterness.....

by desib77 in

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i don't know why but lately i have been so intolerant of people.

i find myself bitter when people spew nonsense as if it is fact (political, religious, etc........).

i went on a girl's weekend with a good friend of mine (non jw) and everytime she started talking about how blessed she is and how god put stuff on her heart i felt ill. i feel ill just telling you about it.. so, am i the only one feeling bitter these days??

desib77

Quandry,

It has been difficult for me, too. I lost everyone that I had in my life when I left. It was as if I was a child starting over and having to make all new friends. Unfortunately, I didn't get a lot of practice making true friends as a JW so it wasn't something and still is not something that I'm good at. Thank you for putting it into perspective for me. Hugs......