It is very sad. The "brother" that told her that used to be a C.O. so she seems to have even more respect for him than the others. It disgusts me.
desib77
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They are killing her.
by desib77 inwow it has been such a long time since i've posted here.
i've for the most part been able to move on with life leaving the jws behind me.. but now i am being forced to deal with them again.
my mom (jw) has been sick and discovered that she has a mass in her throat (lower part in her chest) that is making it hard for her to breath.
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Inactive dubs on Facebook - youth still keeping in touch with each other after leaving
by truthseeker ini was browsing facebook recently and came across a few "young ones" from my hall who i know have left and others i'm not sure about.. what i found interesting was many of these inactive youth had other inactive youths in their hall on their friend's list.. this could be a good thing in terms of support, emotionally and mentally.. if say a youth has left the org and they know another youth in their hall who has also left, they might not have been the best of friends or they might have been, but the desire to reconnect with like minded individuals is probably quite strong.. this might be a concern for the society as there is strength in numbers and there might be less of a chance these youth go back to the truth if they've met like minded ones in their own congregation.. what are your thoughts?.
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desib77
I completely agree. That is why many are convinced that the internet is evil and just one of Satan's tools (my mother is included in those who would never touch the internet)
I have looked up old JW acquaintances on facebook and not found them. I'm assuming that those people left and came back or just don't have internet access. I've always been curious about what happened to a few of them.
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They are killing her.
by desib77 inwow it has been such a long time since i've posted here.
i've for the most part been able to move on with life leaving the jws behind me.. but now i am being forced to deal with them again.
my mom (jw) has been sick and discovered that she has a mass in her throat (lower part in her chest) that is making it hard for her to breath.
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desib77
Thank you all for the advice. If she does not schedule the surgery tomorrow I will pursue other options. It is nice to be able to discuss this with people who understand how misguided and irrational the wittnesses can be.
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They are killing her.
by desib77 inwow it has been such a long time since i've posted here.
i've for the most part been able to move on with life leaving the jws behind me.. but now i am being forced to deal with them again.
my mom (jw) has been sick and discovered that she has a mass in her throat (lower part in her chest) that is making it hard for her to breath.
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desib77
Thank you. I guess today my anger about the situation is getting the best of me. Tomorrow I will refocus, calm down and try to explain things to her again.
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They are killing her.
by desib77 inwow it has been such a long time since i've posted here.
i've for the most part been able to move on with life leaving the jws behind me.. but now i am being forced to deal with them again.
my mom (jw) has been sick and discovered that she has a mass in her throat (lower part in her chest) that is making it hard for her to breath.
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desib77
Wow it has been such a long time since I've posted here. I've for the most part been able to move on with life leaving the JWs behind me.
But now I am being forced to deal with them again. My mom (JW) has been sick and discovered that she has a mass in her throat (lower part in her chest) that is making it hard for her to breath. The first problem has been that she left her job a while back to pioneer and does not have health insurance to pay for any medical expenses. Since she can't pay for them right away she has been avoiding going to the dr. for checkups and medical care. Finally she went last week to see a surgeon who told her that the mass MUST come up within two weeks so as to avoid causing her trachea to collapse. Plus, there is the chance that it is cancerous and must be biopsied. The mass has also caused her to choke a."nd I worry about that. When I spoke to her on Friday she seemed to understand the severity of it and was waiting to see if she was in the system to get help from the VA (a whole 'nother issue). I explained that if she couldn't get that worked out within a day or two that she will need to go to a normal hospital for the procedure. (I'm guessing she payed no attention to all of the charity hospitals that I looked up for her.)
So, today I called to check on her. She had just gotten back from a meeting and seemed pretty chipper. I asked about the progress of getting her scheduled for the procedure and she said that she was still working on it. Then........... she said it. "But brother so and so said maybe I should try such and such to help it. It is a natural medicine and those are always best." I am so angry! How dare he (used to be a C.O.) advise her medically????? We have no idea what she is dealing with and to try to treat it naturally and ignore the doctors is just ridiculous. I feel like calling him to tell him to stay away from my mother!
Last week another "brother" told her that doctors are all out for money and don't care at all about the patients. They are all "crooked". In her own words, "This world is just so wicked". Let me explain something. My mother lives in a state of paranoia. She thinks everyone is out to get her and everyone is "bad, just so bad". She is so far from reality it is scary to me and the JWs only increase her dillusions.
I just don't know what to do. This whole thing makes me feel sick.
Desi
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Trinity
by desib77 inbeen a long time since i've posted.
just thought i would stop in, say hi, and get your thoughts on this.. since leaving the jws i have tried to be open to all ideas regardless of how different it is from the way i was raised.
i am having trouble with one issue, though, the trinity.
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desib77
Thanks for all of the opinions. I guess it is important to me because when I pray I think of one God and I just can't picture it any other way. I thought maybe I was just so set in the JW viewpoint that I wasn't allowing myself to be open to the Trinity idea. I know I will never really know but it makes me feel better that I'm not the only one that has not completely rejected all JW beliefs.
Thank you for all of the thoughts. It is nice to be back.
Desi
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Trinity
by desib77 inbeen a long time since i've posted.
just thought i would stop in, say hi, and get your thoughts on this.. since leaving the jws i have tried to be open to all ideas regardless of how different it is from the way i was raised.
i am having trouble with one issue, though, the trinity.
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desib77
But it's still very confusing even after that lol!
Definitely!
Thank you for all of your thoughts. It is nice to get someone's take on the subject that doesn't have a JW background.
Desi
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Trinity
by desib77 inbeen a long time since i've posted.
just thought i would stop in, say hi, and get your thoughts on this.. since leaving the jws i have tried to be open to all ideas regardless of how different it is from the way i was raised.
i am having trouble with one issue, though, the trinity.
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desib77
Thank you for all of the responses. It is nice to know that I'm not the only one who has trouble accepting it. One guy showed me a children's book and explained that parts of an egg are all separate but still make up the egg. I had trouble with this because while I understand what he was trying to say, I just don't think that if I was wanting to remove the yolk that it would be the same thing to remove the egg white or the shell. I feel the same way about prayer. When I pray, I pray to God through Jesus not to Jesus sometimes and to God others as I've seen with other people. I don't know if this makes any sense or not but it is just difficult for me to accept....even when presented in a children's book.
Desi
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Trinity
by desib77 inbeen a long time since i've posted.
just thought i would stop in, say hi, and get your thoughts on this.. since leaving the jws i have tried to be open to all ideas regardless of how different it is from the way i was raised.
i am having trouble with one issue, though, the trinity.
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desib77
Didn't I just suggest to stop analyzing stuff to death? You're all sucking the fun out of life. It's a great story, now go out for a walk or a bike ride.
Wow, you sound like my dad.... Thankfully, I'm not bitter about my past and actually have faith in a higher power. I'm just confused about the details.
Thanks to everyone for the input especially the link to the other thread.
Desi
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Trinity
by desib77 inbeen a long time since i've posted.
just thought i would stop in, say hi, and get your thoughts on this.. since leaving the jws i have tried to be open to all ideas regardless of how different it is from the way i was raised.
i am having trouble with one issue, though, the trinity.
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desib77
Hi everyone! Been a long time since I've posted. Just thought I would stop in, say hi, and get your thoughts on this.
Since leaving the JWs I have tried to be open to all ideas regardless of how different it is from the way I was raised. I am having trouble with one issue, though, The Trinity. I just can't seem to wrap my mind around the thought of Jesus and God being one. I have had it explained to me in many different ways but I just can't get past Jesus being God's son and not God himself. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
Thanks in advance!
Desi