About 4 years ago it became imposible for the non JW to subscripe to the magizines, without contact with a publisher. You now have to have them brought to you.
It seems that the orangization is becoming more and more paranoid. People are now being disfellowship for reading certain books.
They fight in the Supreme Court for freedoms they denigh their members. How hipocritiacal can you get..
Joseph_Muth
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Are WT and Awake! Becoming secret magizines
by Joseph_Muth inabout 4 years ago it became imposible for the non jw to subscripe to the magizines, without contact with a publisher.
you now have to have them brought to you.. it seems that the orangization is becoming more and more paranoid.
people are now being disfellowship for reading certain books.
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".......... but are as angels in heaven"
by Ice Blue inone of the many teachings that troubled my conscience matthew 22:30. does this mean that after armageddon there will essentially be several different classes of people ie survivors (who may marry) and resurrected ones (who may not) and those born after armageddon (presumably who may)?
does this mean the resurrected ones will be sexless - like 'drones'?
surely then they will not be the same person that they were?
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This one topic that alway trobled me. And this one thing that the presidents and then the Governing Body should have take a passed on. But they rarely pass on anything. And it is catching up with them. Once again they put their noses in where angels fear to tread. We the living have no concept of what the new world will be like, and if we were told we probly wouldn'y like it. So that is why we are not informed. We have enough to deal with here and now.
God is just and it seems that there would not be any class distintions. But, who am I.
Agape
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Good Question
by Joseph_Muth indear outoftheorg:.
satan tempted jesus (without success).
peter , all the other disciples with some success.
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Dear Outoftheorg:
Satan tempted Jesus (without success). Peter , all the other disciples with some success. All of us in ways known and unknown have fallen into Satan grasp.
All religions, and people have all the same problems that the organization has. The thing with Jehovahs Witnesses is their claims, and their hypocrisy. Jehovah may well use the organisation for his purposes, but right now it seems that, they that are standing are about to fall. I say that he may, because he used sin ridden Israel for his purposes, and it was at this point worst the the organization is today (but in the future?).
We have a responsibility, to look at all things that are presented to us, and judge whether they are right or wrong. You have the freedom to use what ever standard you choose. That is the free will that God gave us. Christian freedom in my opinion is based on the Bible.
We can Judge the actions of a group, but we have to be careful about judging the individuals in the group. Only God can do that (if we judged Paul by his actions we would have been wrong).
When I was a JW I thought that end would come, and we would be in the new order now. With that humbling experience, I have stopped trying to out guess God, and other humans. The logic I use is perfect, but I rarely have all the information.
That is why Christian Freedom is such a heavy responsibility. And the reason most people want others to direct them ( most people are lazy, cowards). Thats why I thank God for Raymond Franz and his two books. I dont worship Ray or even know whether he is 100% right. All I know is that he, and his works are the best guide I have right now. They have given me insight, and understanding about where, and why I find myself where I am today.
You are right about all the things you see in the organization. And there are thousands of News people, other Religious leaders, bitter vengeful people, right minded people, and above all God him self, that are bringing to light the spiritual, mental, and sexual abuses that the organization has done.
The internet is something that Jehovahs Witnesses have tried to curb, as we can see its the lives blood of their enemies.But, many of the people on both sides have lost sight of is LOVE. Many people I know are doing what the organization tried to do and failed, destroy themselvesI hope this has helped, I am sure that I have not solved the problem. But with so few day in a life, we need peace, joy, and a real honest, personal relationship, with God and his Son.
Agape
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This is my main focus
by Joseph_Muth ini was a ministial servant, and elder there.
spent six year of my life in that cong.
i had some good friends there.
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I am not going anywhere. I was a ministial servant, and elder there. Spent six year of my life in that Cong. I had some good friends there. So without calling the PO, I decided to use this form, to see, if any had taken my route.
Hope to chat soon,Outoftheorg.
agape
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Looking life mate
by Joseph_Muth in57 yr 5'11" gray/blue, 190 lbs dwm, have small business in boise, and mountain property in colorado.
love, travel, lakes, mountains, desert, hiking, movies, weekend trips.
holding hands, kissing.
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57 Yr 5'11" gray/blue, 190 lbs DWM, Have small business in Boise, and mountain property in Colorado. Love, travel, lakes, mountains, desert, hiking, movies, weekend trips. holding hands, kissing. Have a wild sence of humor.
Very much interested in helping ExJWs to heal and find fellowship. My approach is in the same vain as Raymond Franz. Looking to keep the good believes, and things, that 27 years In Jehovah's Witnesses brought. And never again be caught out in an organization, that is control minded (without love). and sometime decietful.
Looking for a life mate with the same out look.
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Any Ex JWs SmokeyHill Cong. Aurora CO.
by Joseph_Muth inwould love to chat with you.. joe.
208-867-3753
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Would Love to Chat with you.
Joe
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Ex-JWs in Boise, Idaho area
by Joseph_Muth ini am a 57 year old dwm.
i was a jehovah's witness for 27 years.
would love to meet for healing and fellowship.
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I am a 57 year old DWM. I was a Jehovah's Witness for 27 years. Would love to meet for Healing and fellowship. I firmly Believe that Ray Franz and his two book are a guiding Light. Would love to aid or help those have a hard time adjusting. If you like call me 208-867-3753
Agape
Joe