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  A Letter to the Elders

  by AngelofMuZiC in

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  dear fellow board members,.

  my mother is still a member of the org, and as i see it, fully intends on remaining a member.

  she does not agree with everything the wts says, (the elders don't know that) and she has told me that she would never disown me for them, nor have they asked her to.

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  AngelofMuZiC

  Sorry for the really long paragraph guys. I usually don't do that, but I didn't want to take up to much of the forum space. Next time, I'll paragraph, and maybe paraphrase too. Thanx for your advice.
  My Regards,
  Joanne
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  Pasted from a jw board!

  by claudia in

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  oh im going to puke, i did a copy and paste from aisnes db, all real jws.

  the part where she says the awake and wt mags surpass a college education really sent me over the edge!.

  "i have 5 children.

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  AngelofMuZiC

  I've got to play devil's advocate on this one. Though I believe that the WTS is wrong in their teachings, and is most definately a cult, I would not have the vocabulary that I have today, if not for the publications and "theocratic ministry school". I definately don't think them to be better than a college education, but I do believe that they have helped me with my reading and speaking skills. My mother has a learning disability, and could not teach me much other than the alphabet and the small words she knew how to say or spell. But, she always had me read her the mags, and some parts of books. The vocabulary they use exceeds the level required by most high schools even, so because of that, I always managed to dazzle my teachers and classmates because of my ability to read and speak well, which I must attribute to the books and mags.
  My Regards,
  Joanne
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  what if???

  by jolly_green_giant in

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  what if the witnesses do have all the answers?

  what if the big a does come and we all have to answer the 'the man upstairs'?

  what will your arguement be???

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  AngelofMuZiC

  I guess that my argument would be that he's a real jerk for playing with people's heads. With all the BullShit roaming around these days, you really don't know what to believe, but you sure as hell know what not to. In this world, everything has a way of getting turned around and you can take almost any argument and make it appear wrong or right. So like I said, I would just tell God that he's a big jerk, and that if that's what true religion is all about, I want no part.
  My Regards,
  Joanne
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  Just a little comedy to brighten up your I-Day

  by slipnslidemaster in

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  http://members.aol.com/cygnus97/index/sounds/onlygo.wav.

  slipnslidemaster: "do, or do not.

  - yoda

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  AngelofMuZiC

  OMG!!!! That was HILARIOUS!!! LMMFAO!!! But just one question...where did you find that?
  Joanne
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  A Letter to the Elders

  by AngelofMuZiC in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dear fellow board members,.

  my mother is still a member of the org, and as i see it, fully intends on remaining a member.

  she does not agree with everything the wts says, (the elders don't know that) and she has told me that she would never disown me for them, nor have they asked her to.

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  AngelofMuZiC

  Dear Wonderful Board Members,

  I want to thank you all a million times for the replies you have given me. They have given me lots of insight, and I am now going to revise the letter just a little bit according to some of your suggestions. I like the idea about giving a copy to everyone in the hall. It would be really awesome if it got read aloud to the entire congregation!! I bet there'd be plenty of head bowed in shame, huh?! Anyway, thanx again guys. I hope that maybe I can reach someone's softer side with it, and maybe they'll start keeping their promises.
  My Upmost Regards,
  Joanne
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  A Letter to the Elders

  by AngelofMuZiC in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dear fellow board members,.

  my mother is still a member of the org, and as i see it, fully intends on remaining a member.

  she does not agree with everything the wts says, (the elders don't know that) and she has told me that she would never disown me for them, nor have they asked her to.

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  AngelofMuZiC

  Dear Fellow Board Members,

  I need your help with something. My mother is still a member of the org, and as I see it, fully intends on remaining a member. She does not agree with everything the WTS says, (the elders don't know that) and she has told me that she would never disown me for them, nor have they asked her to. I don't want to pull my mother away from the org because it makes her feel like she belongs to something,(so she does.) but I have noticed that she is becoming more depressed everytime she goes to a meeting, because the "brothers and sisters" are not showing her the Christian love they so brag about. So I have written the following letter to the elders in her congregation. I'd like your input before I send it off. Here it goes...

  To the Body of Elders and Ministerial Servants:

  I am writing this letter because I have concerns for my mother--
  Although I myself am no longer a member, I still have respect for the organization, and I respect my mother's wishes to remain a member. I love my mother, and I know that she feels that this is truly God's ordained "faithful and discreet slave". For her, being a part of it brings her happiness. However, I am concerned because she has become increasingly agitated by the way some members have and are treating her. You are all well aware that my mother is advanced in age, and cannot drive. This prevents her from getting around as most people do. I know that in the past, some brothers and sisters have offered to help her out with things like doctor's visits, grocery shopping, recreational activities. I think you should know that a very, very small number have actually followed through on thier offers. I understand that most in the congregation are busy with work or other responsibilities, but as I recall, it is always recommended in the publications and in discussions to make time to help those in need, and try to include those in the hall that don't have family, who are elderly or infirm, or who have special economic needs. My mother's case-ALL OF THE ABOVE. Yet, my mother RARELY have been invited on outings or included in gatherings by anyone in the congregation. She has RARELY been asked if she needed a ride to see her doctor or if she needs help shopping. But more disturbing is that my mother was very ill for a period of two weeks. During that time, she never received even a phone call to see if she was okay, or if she needed anything. She rarely gets phone calls or visits from anyone, except the sister that brings her to the hall, and that is only to see if she is going that evening. Occasionally, one sister asks my mother to join her in field service. According to what I was taught as a member, the congregation should take primary interest in the spiritual health of everyone. This would include making provisions for my mother to be out in the ministry. She seems to feel that people are trying to avoid her, though she doesn't know why. I have known in the past that some witnesses tend to avoid those who have a disfellowshipped, disassociated, or an inactive family member. This is most definately unchristian behavior and highly unfair. I hope this is not the case here. My mother should not be penalized for the decisions I have made. In fact, the congregation should be trying to build her up and encourage her, so that she does not lose her faith. I am not writing this letter to offend anyone, or to make accusations. I am only doing this because I know for sure that these issues have been bothering her for quite some time, and she does not have the courage to bring them to your attention. I have told her on many occasions that she should, but she tells me that she doesn't want "to be a pest" or "to be a burden" as she says. She should not be made to feel as if she were pestering or burdening the congregation. These brothers and sisters should look upon it as a blessing to be caring for those in need, something that is shown by many scriptures to be pleasing to Jehovah. I would appreciate it greatly if you brothers could observe and discuss this matter, so that you may be able to help her. I do what I can, but it is hard because my job requires many hours, and I am currently in training for my EMT license. These activities do not leave much time left, except sleep. Also I cannot offer her the spiritual comfort and support she needs, because I am not a member of the organization. I share different beliefs and I do not want to compromise her beliefs by sharing mine. But I can tell you, she really loves Jehovah and she really needs your love and encouragement. Thank you for taking time to listen to my concerns, and I hope you can help.

  Sincerely,
  Joanne Voorhees Seng

  -So what you ya'll think? Too wordy? Did I knock'em dead?
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  Request for Opinions

  by patio34 in

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  i requested that my sons (both jws) come to my home for a family meeting today.

  had nothing to do with religion.

  both of them know i don't go to meetings and that i have intellectual disagreement with wtbs.. son #2 said that before we begin the meeting, he would like to offer up prayer.

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  AngelofMuZiC

  I also agree with everyone else. He wasn't showing respect for you being his parent like the bible says he should. Your house, your rules, no matter what the circumstance.
  My Regards,
  Joanne
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  Please Respond To Survey! 25 more needed please.

  by Big Jim in

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  it seems like to me the majority of people who are in the truth, are were in the truth was a result of either a family member are a friend witnessing to them and not many seem to have been found in the door to door work.. from my years of associating with the borg i cannot recall many coming in the truth from the door to door work.. how were you sucked in?

  for me it was my aunt who has now even though i am not disfellowshipped decided to write me out of her will to the tune of about $150,000.00 (maybe i should hang around a couple more years)dont think i will.. please respond .

  thanks.

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  AngelofMuZiC

  I was born and raised by my mother, who learned of the org by my father's parents. My father was smart though-he ran when he had the chance.
  My Regards,
  Joanne
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  I confess!

  by noidea in

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  i'm here to confess.

  i've been lurking for some time now.

  i have allot of mixed feelings mostly feelings of loss.

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  AngelofMuZiC

  Noidea,

  You are absolutely right about the innocense thing!
  Joanne
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  Do you have a circle life after being a jw?

  by beroea in

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  do you have a circle life after being a jw?.

  i been wondering about the fact so it seems - that so many after breaking and leaving - a sometime long relationship with the borg - seams to go back to old king of thinking.

  sometimes just with others words.. as jw we look/looked at the world with eyes teach by the borg.

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  AngelofMuZiC

  I need help with that!!!!!

  Despite knowing that the WTS is wrong on most things, I can't help but still have the same mental attitude about things that I have been taught. And I still have a bit of 'preachiness' to me. How the hell do I get rid of it, cause it's annoying!!!!
  Can anyone help?????
  Joanne