RIP Carl
(((((Jan)))))
larc's family-placed obituary is in the sunday, 11/13/05 "dayton daily news.
"thornton, carl leonard 65 of oakwood, oh., passed away mon., nov. 7, 2005. carl retired as a tenured professor of organizational behavior from kettering university (formerly gmi), flint, mi., in 2000, having served there since 1986. from 1978-1986 carl was with the ncr corp., dayton, oh, last serving as director of training/development, engineering & manufacturing group, and was functionally responsible for the educational programs at 16 us manufacturing and 8 international locations of ncr.
from 1976-1978 he served as the executive director of personnel affairs, university of miami, fl.
RIP Carl
(((((Jan)))))
mahatma gandhi, as you know, walked barefoot most of the time, which.
produced an impressive set of calluses on his feet.
he also ate very little,.
(I tell you. All I know is kid stuff!)
lol me too
What do you call a fly with no wings?
....A walk
Can't think of any puns !
our son william grant was born last wednesday 2/11/05 at 20:43, weighing 9lb 2oz (4140g).
we are both really well.. it wasn't the birth experience i had hoped for - on my long list of things i didn't want to happen, the only things i avoided were induction, pethidine, episiotomy (i pushed too efficiently, no time to do it!
) and caesarean.
Congratulations Fe203 & Hubby
Welcome to the world Iron baby !!!
i just got some news and am still shaking.
my sister died today.
i hardly knew her .
I'm so sorry (((((LadyLee)))))
some of you may remember larc and zazuwitts, who used to post here regularly.. .
i heard from zazu today that sadly larc passed away this morning.
he died peacefully in his sleep of heart failure.
I'm not sure how old Larc was, I am in email contact with Zazu and will pass on your responses and answer any questions when she responds - obviously it may be day or two as she has alot to deal with right now. I'm sure she will greatly appreciate the kind comments on the thread.
some of you may remember larc and zazuwitts, who used to post here regularly.. .
i heard from zazu today that sadly larc passed away this morning.
he died peacefully in his sleep of heart failure.
Some of you may remember Larc and Zazuwitts, who used to post here regularly.
I heard from Zazu today that sadly Larc passed away this morning. He died peacefully in his sleep of heart failure. She asked me to pass this news on to his friends on the forum .
Thinking of you (((((Zazu & family)))))
Angharad
(Even though computer issues have sometimes stopped Zazu from posting I will forward any replies on to her, if she is unable to read them)
it seems that some people are keen to use disfellowshipping as the measure of anything bad.
if someone is deleted from a forum for being obnoxious then that is akin to being disfellowshipped and is b-a-d. yada yada yada.. is it?.
is every disfellowshipping "bad" simply by virtue of being a disfellowshipping?.
Ang, since you tell us what the purpose of the site is, might I say that making posts regarding inflammatory political issues goes against the very purpose of this site?
Ah Minimus, how predictable You have misunderstood what I was saying, what I meant was that it seems sometimes there are some that have moved on from JW issues, and seem frustrated when a newer person arrives and asks the same questions that have been discussed quite a few times before - they would rather use the forum like a chat room with their small group of friends. Please note that I have used the words SOME and SOMETIMES above
it seems that some people are keen to use disfellowshipping as the measure of anything bad.
if someone is deleted from a forum for being obnoxious then that is akin to being disfellowshipped and is b-a-d. yada yada yada.. is it?.
is every disfellowshipping "bad" simply by virtue of being a disfellowshipping?.
In the case of someone who is recovering from cult expulsion there are emotional issues that raise the stakes. Being debarred from communication, with those who an individual thought of as a support network in the absence of former family and friends, can have psychological consequences. For some this goes beyond mere frustration, and reinforces morbid feelings of rejection.
I understand what you are saying Ross, but I disagree when someone is deleted from the forum they are not barred from communicating with friends. Which is what happens with disfellowshipping, how many people have gone straight over to one of the other Exjws board and continued interacting with the same people over there?
This would be the basis of my reservation against using permanent deletion in any but the most extreme of cases. I completely acknowledge that in some cases it is entirely justified (
Contrary to what a lot of people like to shout, it takes a lot to get yourself permanently deleted from this forum. Some people have been given chance after chance and numerous warnings to follow the guidelines, but then act like it was totally unexpected when we finally say enough is enough. In the past people have been timed out and then come back and within a short time are doing exactly the same things again, how long should that go on? It would get to the stage where they would get the digs in and know that they will be back and able to do it again in 24/48 hours etc Why should we have to put up with this sort of behaviour continually.
Yes if someone is obviously having a bad day and posts something out of character we would PM asking them to tone things down, and then time them out if they continued, but there is a world of difference between them and someone who has been deliberately disruptive and insulting and made it their mission to get themselves deleted (quite often going bragging about it to the elsewhere), why should we let them back on just to enable them to just do it again?
They need to realize the real picture. This site is meant to help ones discover the truth about the watchtower society and to help them in the process of leaving that organization.
Exactly, some people seem to want to change the forum to suit their own purposes, they have got past the whole JW experience and want to move on and just use it as a social club. Great ! moving past JW issues is what we are all aiming for, and while obviously the social side is important the forum is not going to change in its main purpose, there are always going to be people that need the support and JW discussions and that is what we are here for. If that bores some people then its tough and their problem, that is what the site is about.
To use it for any other means especially for personal vendetta's is selfish and sadly these ones have lost the whole point of this site being in existence.
Yes its very sad and selfish, especially when at the same time these people are claiming to be doing this for the good of the site and newbies. How can making multiple accounts and posting purely disruptive and insulting things be for the good of the site and helpful to newly exiting people.
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the author, nathaniel j. merritt, has been hitchhiking his way to enlightenment since he was a teen.
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as many of you will know, yesterday i received my scan results from the haematologist.
when i entered his office he was beaming and so i thought the news would be good.
the chemotherapy has shrunk the cancerous lymph nodes in my stomach substantially!!
Great news Ian !!