Tomapostate

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  Bible Rewritten

  by Tomapostate in

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  Help! I'm having serious thoughts about going back

  by lola28 in

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  2. friends

  hello old friends, i've been thinking about going back and need you all to give me your thoughts on it.. the last year has been a horribe one for me, in the span of less than a year the following things have happened to me:.

  lost my mom to cancergot hit by a carhad a professional set back that will cost over 600k to resolveended a three and a half year relationshipit just feels like every time i think things are going to get better something else hits me and knocks me down, a small part of me wonders wether i brought all these things on myself because i left the organization (yes i know how silly that sounds) and i have given serious thought about going back.

  i need you guys to talk me out of it!.

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  Tomapostate

  Hi Lola, my two-pennuth

  After I left I tried going back and found that I literally could not stomoch the meetings any more! I honestly could not see how I managed in the first place.

  I understand the need for a community, but knowing what you know now you'll find that it just is not possable.

  Perhaps a different church? I don't know what your belieafs are now, but if atheist perhaps a very liberal church? Humanist group?

  All the best with whatever you decide.
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  am I making the right choice?

  by lostinthought in

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  Tomapostate

  Hi Lostin, hope you are ok. Leaving them is a big change and it is something you are wise to take slowly. I did
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  Sparlock on Wikipedia! Help editing?

  by brizzzy in

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  2. friends

  someone has put sparlock on wikipedia somehow:.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/sparlock.

  i know there was a submission by a fellow jwn-er waiting for approval with some cited sources:.

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  Tomapostate

  Hi Thanks Brizzy! Is that why it got deleated? I was going to go back to it and start doing references and stuff. Oh well.
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  Sparlock on Wikipedia! Help editing?

  by brizzzy in

  1. jw
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  someone has put sparlock on wikipedia somehow:.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/sparlock.

  i know there was a submission by a fellow jwn-er waiting for approval with some cited sources:.

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  Tomapostate

  Mmm. I just did one:

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparlock

  Sorry I didn't know about yours. Please edit mine. It isn't appearing in Google though. Will that come with time?
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  Where is this quote from in the Watchtower...?

  by Tomapostate in

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  "love is one of the identifying marks of the true religion:jesus gives us another reason why we should cultivate the divine quality of love.

  by this all will know that you are my disciples, he said, if you have love among yourselves.

  (john 13:35) the word if leaves it up to each christian as to whether he or she will learn to express love.".

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  Thanks, it was the 1999 Watchtower, because I remember at the time how uncomfortable it made me. The lack of concirn the elders had for many of the elderly happened to be an issue I was raising with them at the time and this Watchtower -rather than lend support to my argument- undermimed it by saying that this "distinguishing mark" of a true Christian was nothing of the sort- instead it was now something a "Christian" (someone already considered such) had the option of displaying the mark!
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  Where is this quote from in the Watchtower...?

  by Tomapostate in

  1. watchtower
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  "love is one of the identifying marks of the true religion:jesus gives us another reason why we should cultivate the divine quality of love.

  by this all will know that you are my disciples, he said, if you have love among yourselves.

  (john 13:35) the word if leaves it up to each christian as to whether he or she will learn to express love.".

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  "Love is one of the identifying marks of the TRUE religion:Jesus gives us another reason why we should cultivate the divine quality of love. “By this all will know that you are my disciples,” he said, “if you have love among yourselves.” (John 13:35) The word “if” leaves it up to each Christian as to whether he or she will learn to express love."

  Which Watchtower said that? Please let me know. Thanks.
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  The athiest's book of bible stories.....

  by outsmartthesystem in

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  does anyone happen to have a current link to it?

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  Seriously in need of opinions here

  by DilemmaGF in

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  an inactive jw guy, still close and in contact with jw family and some jw friends, wanting to marry a worldy christendom girl.

  he made their relationship known to everybody (family and friends).

  excited to get married to the girl and to start a life proper.. the jw thinking is still strong in him - doctrine, holidays, voting and stuffs; but indicated disagreement with some wts policies, teaching about wts being the only true religion, and did some research about wts, even read a part of coc.. what say you about this guy?

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  Tomapostate

  DilemmaGF, if you like him and he likes you then no advise from anyone will stop you going with him- nor should it!

  I am puzzled why you ask for it. I don't think you have any doubts about your feelings for him, perhaps making sure you hear all critisisms before making your choice so it can at least be an informed one rather than just a blind flurry of romance.

  Perhaps you are not sure you agree with his stance on holidays and foresee it turning into a major divison later in the relationship? I'm asking rather than hypothesising. If this is so then your view on these things is worth making clear. Any dishonesty in the relationship can turn in to a major problem later if not sorted sooner.

  My advise- be clear but gentle what your stance is. You don't agree with the JW's and won't join them, so if he is harbouring any thoughts about going back to them once your are married then you are probably not suited. On the other hand, if he is prepaired to embrace your view on things then you may be perfectly suited.

  I think I see your dilema.

  The simple truth is you have your doubts. Until they are sated you are both not ready for a commited relationship. My advise.
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  Have Jehovah's Witnesses (The WTBTS) taken the Best Years of your life?

  by Hairyhegoat in

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  having been a born in for 44 years i can say yes to this question.

  my 2 sisters and 1 brother and my dad have nothing to do with my family now we have made our stand against the jw's.

  i was always downtrodden at school for been a jw.

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  Tomapostate

  Oh yes. Still struggling to sort my life. What can you do?