The irony of this situation is that it’s the GB that is stumbling others from becoming JWs because of this stupid beard rule. No witness EVER left the organization because brother so and so decided to start wearing a beard. But I’m betting there’s many who will never become witnesses simply because they don’t want someone telling them they have to shave.
Hisclarkness
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Oh Boy! Beards are "stumbling blocks" again ... from Stephen Lett
by freddo inso this week's midweek meeting video about stumbling others has lett spouting and gurning rubbish again.. if you can't take the whole 9 minutes go from 5:50 to get the context and 6:45 for the "beard" mention.. https://youtu.be/ezv1ici5cwo.
oh, well - at least they shoot themselves in the foot with this doublespeak.
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Serena Williams after marrying rich baby daddy: I am a Jehovah's Witness
by Wild_Thing inbut how??????
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https://www.christianpost.com/news/serena-williams-mom-encouraged-her-with-scripture-after-emotional-struggles-with-motherhood-213273/.
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Hisclarkness
Update:
i apologize. It wasn’t the vogue article. It was an Enews article back in August! Here is the link:
http://m.eonline.com/amp/news/874837/inside-serena-williams-and-alexis-ohanian-s-unique-world-how-the-couple-are-getting-ready-for-baby-making-it-work-long-distance
Here’s the direct quote:
"Being a Jehovah's Witness is important to me, but I've never really practiced it and have been wanting to get into it. Alexis didn't grow up going to any church, but he's really receptive and even takes the lead. He puts my needs first."
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Serena Williams after marrying rich baby daddy: I am a Jehovah's Witness
by Wild_Thing inbut how??????
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https://www.christianpost.com/news/serena-williams-mom-encouraged-her-with-scripture-after-emotional-struggles-with-motherhood-213273/.
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Hisclarkness
Lost in the fog,
there is another vogue article about a month or so old. Vogue had exclusive rights to cover serena’s Wedding. It is in this interview where she talks about being raised a witness but never taking it too seriously.
I apologize for not providing the link. Perhaps someone else could find it. It was either November or December.
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Serena Williams after marrying rich baby daddy: I am a Jehovah's Witness
by Wild_Thing inbut how??????
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https://www.christianpost.com/news/serena-williams-mom-encouraged-her-with-scripture-after-emotional-struggles-with-motherhood-213273/.
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Hisclarkness
Wild_thing
i believe it was from the vogue interview that specifically covered her wedding a month or so ago where she made the statement about being raised but never getting serious about it.
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Serena Williams after marrying rich baby daddy: I am a Jehovah's Witness
by Wild_Thing inbut how??????
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https://www.christianpost.com/news/serena-williams-mom-encouraged-her-with-scripture-after-emotional-struggles-with-motherhood-213273/.
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Hisclarkness
I myself used to be one of those people. Growing up, my mom studied off and on but never did anything about it but as far as I knew in my mind we were “ jehovah’s Witnesses”, even though I still did all kinds of things that JWs aren’t supposed to do like saying the pledge or going to the school Christmas parties, etc. It wasn’t until much later that we all got serious and got baptized.
So I know exactly how Serena Williams is thinking. She is not concerned with being baptized or following the rules to the T. She is probably blissfully unaware of all of the WT’s problems, doctrinally, financially, socially, etc. All she knows is that’s how she was raised and so that’s what she identifies as in her mind, nevermind the technicalities of it all and the associated consequences.
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Serena Williams after marrying rich baby daddy: I am a Jehovah's Witness
by Wild_Thing inbut how??????
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https://www.christianpost.com/news/serena-williams-mom-encouraged-her-with-scripture-after-emotional-struggles-with-motherhood-213273/.
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Hisclarkness
Those quotes where she talks about being a witness are from 2002.
Secondly, as recently as last month she said that although she was RAISED as a witness she never got too serious about it.
The Williams sisters were raised as witnesses but never got baptized. Nothing new here. No need to criticize or scrutinize someone who was never baptized.
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Verifiable proof of Jesus' existance outside the Bible
by unsure inthought i'd start a separate discussion on the subject.. those who know me know i'm struggling with faith; i want to believe, some days i do but it becomes difficult.. many believers say there is verifiable proof of jesus' existence outside of the bible.. please post this proof..
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Hisclarkness
Hi unsure,
i don't know that there is much debate over whether or not a man named Jesus of Nazareth actually existed, despite the little recorded evidence outside the Bible that was already mentioned on other threads. It seems the debate is more over whether he was just a regular man or the actual Son of God on earth.
May I ask why your faith is so dependent on whether or not this man actually existed? Why not consider the fact that there was clearly a huge shift in the first century where hundreds of thousands and even up to millions of people were willing to die and be persecuted over a minority faith both within the realm of Judaism and the Roman Empire. For such a shift in consciousness to have occurred so suddenly within one generation would suggest something real took place.
You can debate whether or not this thing has any real meaning or significance to you or humanity but I think it's pretty evident that something real actually did happen.
I don't know if this will mean anything for you. I really hate to see people lose faith. So much of faith is equated to religion and authoritarianism when it should be more about your individual personal journey through life with God.
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Williams sister got engaged to some guy from Reddit
by wozza inso is he a witness or if not what are gb going to do about it since she identifies with the watchtower society?.
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Hisclarkness
And again, the only other way the Williams sisters could be counseled or disciplined is if they were unbaptized publishers ACTIVELY ASSOCIATING with a congregation. Even if they were unbaptized publishers but not actively associating with a congregation then there really is nothing that could be done.
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Williams sister got engaged to some guy from Reddit
by wozza inso is he a witness or if not what are gb going to do about it since she identifies with the watchtower society?.
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Hisclarkness
Carla,
Technically, unbaptized children are not JWs either. However, if you are a minor then you are under the rules of your parents, JW or not. A parent is allowed to raise their child however they please, as long as they are not breaking the law or endangering the child. I understand your issue with blood but that is not the point in this discussion. The issue is who is or is not technically a JW and if you are not baptized then you are not a JW. PERIOD. It doesn't matter what you personally claim, or how others see you. If you act a certain way that would normally "bring reproach on the organization", at the end of the day it comes down to, "well, he/she is not baptized so is technically not one of us". If Donald Trump came out tomorrow saying he was a JW it would not matter AT ALL because all watchtower has to say is "he has never been baptized as one of Jehovah's witnesses so no, he is not a part of nor does he represent our organization".
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Williams sister got engaged to some guy from Reddit
by wozza inso is he a witness or if not what are gb going to do about it since she identifies with the watchtower society?.
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Hisclarkness
Just to add on to others' comments that she was never baptized and thus never truly a JW (and not to mention the fact that thousands if not millions "claim" to be JWs but that doesn't mean the JWs claim them), if they are not active in any particular congregation then who exactly is supposed to "counsel" them??? Though I don't know for sure, I'm guessing she MIGHT drop by a Kingdom Hall every now and then but I seriously doubt she's actively attending meetings anywhere. And let's not forget she travels the world practically every week of the year for different tournaments. Watchtower probably doesn't know what their situation is any more than we do. The only people who know are the William sisters. If they actually regularly attended a KH, I'm sure we would know from local witnesses and word would spread through the grapevine as to their activities or lack thereof. Heck, I remember hearing about things Katherine Jackson was doing in her congregation and I live on the other side of the country! I also remember hearing confirmation that Prince was still active because, according to the elder in my hall, "well, I know he turned in time last month because that's what Br. so and so told me". I think it's safe to say that the William sisters are NOT active witnesses and most likely NOT actively associated with any particular congregation. Thus, what "discipline" could we possibly expect from WT who in all likelihood DONT claim them as JWs???