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  Hi, allow me to introduce myself.

  by ( o Y o ) in

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  my name is chris and i just joined your excellent forum today.

  it's 2 am and i can't sleep, then (by divine light, perhaps?

  ) discovered your forum.

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  Corvin

  Some people have absolutely no grasp on what is appropriate and what is not.

  ( o Y o ), are you a commercial painter by trade? I suspect you might have wandered over her from the aol chats. they love that kind of crap over there.

  Corvin
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  Just How Serious IS Depression . . . ?

  by Corvin in

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  how serious is depression related to your jw upbringing, association and/or disfellowshipment?

  should this kind (or any other kind) of depression that lingers long after the wt smoke clears go untreated?

  how have you successfully dealt with your depression?.

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  Corvin

  ( o Y o )

  You have a pm
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  A Short Overview of Coercive Mind Control Tactics

  by Lady Lee in

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  this article is adapted from dr margaret singer's coercive mind control tactics

  coerce .

  1 : to restrain or dominate by force .

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  Corvin

  Thank you for the post. Really good stuff.

  Group dynamics are often used to reinforce the new belief system. At meetings the new study never sees objections or questionning of the material presented. They learn quickly to accept the information without question.

  Although we know the truth about the organization's tactics, the Governing Body and the mind-washed rank and file would falsely point to that very same statement as evidence of unity in the organization.

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  w01 3/1 p. 10 What Is the Spiritual Paradise? ***

  Although coming "out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues," they enjoy a unity that is difficult to comprehend until you experience it.?Revelation 7:9.( 9

  After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands.)

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  w01 4/1 p. 17 True Christianity Prevails! ***

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  Despite the amazing diversity of God?s people, they dwell in unity with one another. (Psalm 133:1-3) This adds to the evidence that holy spirit is at work in the lives of those serving God. His spirit is a powerful force for good that enables his servants to display love, joy, peace, kindness, and other appealing qualities

  I really love how they also associate their version of unity with love, joy, peach, kindness, and other appealing qualities.

  Blah.

  Corvin
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  What happens when you loan a JW a book

  by Nosferatu in

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  about a year ago, i had purchased a book (new) called "in sheep's clothing".

  i had bought it for the sole purpose of learning to deal with my controlling, manipulative father.

  my mother became interested in the book, and i let her borrow it.

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  Corvin

  Nos, while I understand you are pissed off about your mother defacing your personal property, I had to chuckle at what she did to the book. IT is such a typical JW thing, to underline stuff in the paragraphs of books and mags. It is a habit that I myself am trying to break. I managed to read Crisis Of Conscience all the way through without underlining a single sentence . . . and it was so fxxxing hard not to, LOL.

  Hope you have a sense of humor about what your mom did.

  Kind Regards,

  Corvin
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  Did You Stay as a Witness Because You Needed a Social Life & "Friends"?

  by minimus in

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  recently onacruse made a comment regarding why many jws remain jws.

  a lot of people look at religion as a way to get together and be social with one another.

  let's face it, people need "friends".

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  Corvin

  No, I never stayed a JW for the social aspects. While after I was df'd, I missed some of my JW friends, the social aspects of the organization sucked big time. I have deeper and more meaningful relationships outside the org.

  Corvin
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  Just How Serious IS Depression . . . ?

  by Corvin in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  how serious is depression related to your jw upbringing, association and/or disfellowshipment?

  should this kind (or any other kind) of depression that lingers long after the wt smoke clears go untreated?

  how have you successfully dealt with your depression?.

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  Corvin

  I joined the Jehovahs Witnesses to cure my depression. HAHAHAH! I am being serious! Thinking that 'god' was going to cure my depression with delusions of paradise earth. God doesn't change seratonin levels, no matter what religion you are. You can pray until you're blue in the face.

  I understand what you are saying. All my kids are teens and they are going through normal teen phases and often driving me up the wall lately. LOL, it is all part of life and raising kids. I wouldn't change anything, really. I have worked hard to get them away from the organization of zanies so that they can get through their teen years without all the crap heaped on them I had heaped on me. My ex-wife, however, is ever the perpetually "spiritually sick" JW fanatic who, although not allowing the JW doctrines to effect posative change in her personal life, uses every issue and opportunity to say that the kids are having challenges because they are not serving Jehovah. She just told me today on the phone that the kids really need to go back to the meetings or we are going to have such terrible devastating problems with them in the near future.

  I laughed and explained to her that her plan is highly flawed simply because she wants to force them to go someplace they utterly hate going to having their heads filled with information they know darn well is a load of crap. They also do not like the people either. She is intent on doing more damage to them. But to her, yes, all your problems is because you are not going to the meetings and out in field service, and if you would only just do it, then all your problems will magically go away and Jehovah will help you. Whenever she says things like that I point out that her and her JW husband have worse and more problems than most non-JW's and her going to meetings has not helped her whatsoever. She gets pissed and hangs up. Can't blame her for trying to blame Satan, you know.

  Anyway, my problems lessened considerably once I got the hell away from the org and its mind-washed members. After that, I could start to see what was left to deal with in my life. The sky clears a bit more everyday for me now.

  Corvin
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  Just How Serious IS Depression . . . ?

  by Corvin in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  how serious is depression related to your jw upbringing, association and/or disfellowshipment?

  should this kind (or any other kind) of depression that lingers long after the wt smoke clears go untreated?

  how have you successfully dealt with your depression?.

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  Corvin

  And dubs have nothing to do with depression whatsoever. It doesn't care what religion you are. Low seratonin has nothing to do with being a Jehovahs Witness. In fact, they're constant bombardment of shaming made me get help, and got me out of that bullshit. I owe a big debt of gratitude to the Jehovahs Witnesses, the way that they treated me.

  I am a little experienced with this here, so I must respectfully disagree on this one point.

  Seratonin is released in the brain. It kicks in automatically when you need it (for normal people). The brain is a massive decision making muscle that absolutely must be exercised to stay healthy. The conditioning in the JW organization is such that it does not encourage or permit one to really use the brain properly and it does not allow for the brains natural ability to release chemicals such as seratonin that regulates your mood. Decisions, thought, perspective, thinking and people skills are so retarded in the organization that it can only ADD to the effects of the genetic disease you already have. How do I know? My doctor and I talk about alot of things, not just how I am feeling today.

  I am not blaming the origin or cause of the disease on the WTBTS, but hanging out with a large organization of neurotics and control freaks five times a week does not lend itself to better mental health for anyone.

  Kind Regards,

  Corvin
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  Just How Serious IS Depression . . . ?

  by Corvin in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  how serious is depression related to your jw upbringing, association and/or disfellowshipment?

  should this kind (or any other kind) of depression that lingers long after the wt smoke clears go untreated?

  how have you successfully dealt with your depression?.

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  Corvin

  Frankly, I have been taking an anti-depressant consistently for about a year now. I can't tell you what a difference it has made in my life.

  I should have been taking them all along. I feel like I have missed so much of my life while in that dark unpenetrable place some of us live in. What I am not sure of is how much being raised a JW exaserbated my condition, or if it is all tied to the experience itself.

  The anti-depressant I take, Welbutrine, not only helps to regulate my moods, but it also affords me the chance to learn skills for dealing with life and people that my moderate to severe depression simply will not allow. I can breathe and take a look around now, I can think! I can keep focus and accomplish so much more than I could before.

  The type of depression I suffer from is Clinical depression. This is mostly seasonal. I can only explain it like this:

  This type of depression acts like the thermostat on your heater that has been set way too low. When things get warmed up and you are in the groove and being productive, the thermostat (depression) kicks in automatically and shuts down the heat . . . and all you can do is cool off into inactivity, hopelessness and dispair. But it sort of sneaks up on you until . . . you wake up one morning and wonder what the hell happened to all I was accomplishing? Where's my quality relationships and my excellent performance? It's all gone and now I have to start all over, but god! It is so hard to get it started again. You spend so many days and nights in a state of tumbledown until the fog slowly, painfully lifts, and only after you have had some major collisions, the heat comes back on. It is a frustrating cycle and you can't do anything about it.

  I plan to stay on the meds indefinitely so that I do not slip back into that place. The meds set the thermostat a little bit higher so you can keep warmed up to a more productive degree.

  I am pretty certain that I have a genetic disposition for depression, and I am also certain that being raised a JW contributed to the intensity of my condition. I am only getting better now, tho.

  Best Regards,

  Corvin
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  Truisms

  by stillajwexelder in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am going to post a truism about once a month.

  most of you will have heard them all before.

  but at least they will be togther in one place.

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  Corvin

  Two or more can share a secret amongst themselves. It is no secret among them, but it is a secret to anyone who doesn't know or has not been told.

  So, no, it really isn't a truism, but that's a secret just between you and me.
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  So What Is The Watchtower NOT All About?

  by Englishman in

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  "ready for every good work," 12/1.

  "god is love," 7/1.

  "remain in my word," 2/1.

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  So how the hell can such an organisation ever pretend that it's Christian?

  It can't. That is one of the more obvious signs hiding in plain sight those in the organization rarely see.

  They mention how important Jesus is from time to time, but really, they do abhore him apparently, for in one year, they devoted two whole articles to him in all of their publications . . . ?

  Yikes! Kids, get away from the sister in the polyester flowered dress and bookbag. She has an arm-full of poison.

  Corvin