We had only a few come by. We gave out candy for the first time ever and it was very delightful and gratifying. I love Halloween.
Corvin
i didn't see many children going around for halloween around here, but someone knocked at my door last night.
when i opened the door, this is what i saw... .
they didn't need a mask .
We had only a few come by. We gave out candy for the first time ever and it was very delightful and gratifying. I love Halloween.
Corvin
that it sits comfortably with you - identifying with it to your wholeness - belief/values
looking for proof and/or compromise your self if convinced of mind / swayed in the extents of your own understanding
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More dichotomous thinking?How do you go when someone asks you left or right ?another "ya gotta be this or that".Well, you could say straight ahead, there's no 'gotta be'It's the political season which in America breeds limited thinkingI'm not American - and even if I were I wouldn't vote for either party - was anyone saying that you have to ?
Tee-hee-hee. Very nice comeback to some unwarranted sarcasm.
my eldest granddaughter is 19 today.
that sure makes me feel old.
okay, she is a step granddaughter, but she's been ours since she was 3, so i rarely remember that part.
Wow, Mulan, she is a real honey. Please give her my warmest birthday wishes.
Corvin
i just love the information i get off this website.
all of your(posters) comments and criticism have truly been educational to me.
i have another question that i have been pondering since leaving the wts.
For me, the Holy Spirit(s) is 15 year-old bottles of single malt Glenmorangie.
to bring you up to speed: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/79728/1.ashxeverybody, meet larry.
while the above skepticism and sarcasm might be a normal response and even warranted in the beginning, i will state that larry is a good guy, big heart, lot's of knowledge and understanding, articulate and disarming.
can't dance worth shit tho, jk.
Sorry to distract you!
Not at all! We need more X-J-dubba Bubbas like you! You can make a difference.
New apostate term officially coined on this day: " X-J-dubba Bubba " : One who sympathizes with and seeks to help former JW's recover and/or leave the organization of JW's.
Corvin
to bring you up to speed: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/79728/1.ashxeverybody, meet larry.
while the above skepticism and sarcasm might be a normal response and even warranted in the beginning, i will state that larry is a good guy, big heart, lot's of knowledge and understanding, articulate and disarming.
can't dance worth shit tho, jk.
Bebu, I think most of us appreciate what you are doing, and what a great friend you are being to your JW buddy.
The thing is, you can never really know what a person coming out of the org or still stuck in the org and having major problems is going through.
An alliance between non-JW healthcare professionals/counselors/therapists/cult authorities and X-JW?s must be formed. The gap needs to be bridged and understanding and concern created within the health care and recovery industry. For example, AA was simply formed by two guys with an idea and a desire to help others. It starts that way and others get involved when they realize how serious the issues are. They begin to see a niche that needs filling and they conscientiously respond to the call, just like you are doing on a personal level with your friend.
This is our goal.
Sassy, Seeit, Harley, everyone is certainly welcome to come visit us for one of our local group meetings. It would be such a great show of support! So c?mon if yer comin! We could also do Tijuana!
Corvin
to bring you up to speed: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/79728/1.ashxeverybody, meet larry.
while the above skepticism and sarcasm might be a normal response and even warranted in the beginning, i will state that larry is a good guy, big heart, lot's of knowledge and understanding, articulate and disarming.
can't dance worth shit tho, jk.
Good stuff, Brenda! Very helpful and thanks.
Corvin
lurkers, doubters, faders, apostates and df?d and da?d jw?s, here is some interesting stuff for you to consider.
according to the watchtower bible & tract society, the following is what constitutes apostasy:
to be disfellowshiped, an apostate does not hay to be a promoter of apostate views .
Nothing shows the WTS as Going Beyond The Things Written? as these few verses, not just in terms of holidays, but the entire DFing/DAing practice or labelling people as Bad Associations? or Apostates? - particularly over petty issues like smoking or grooming - boils down to judging others.
I agree. What they do to other people, especially children, is disgusting. Weighing another human being down with your own selfish interpretation of Scripture is so anti-Jesus, and more Pharisaic than anything.
Corvin
to bring you up to speed: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/79728/1.ashxeverybody, meet larry.
while the above skepticism and sarcasm might be a normal response and even warranted in the beginning, i will state that larry is a good guy, big heart, lot's of knowledge and understanding, articulate and disarming.
can't dance worth shit tho, jk.
1) how much is this going to cost each member of the group each week. Of is it free or by free-will contribution (with or without suggested amount)
There will be no fees or donations asked for or accepted. (Your turn will come around for bringing coffee and snacky-treats however)
2) is this going to be in his home or at his place of business (church?)?
The first meeting will take place at my home. We will leave it up to the group as to whether or not they wish to rotate the meeting place or not. I have a very suitable room for such meetings and would and could host each and every meeting. No problem.
3) how will spirituality vs religion be handled?
Do most people even know the difference?
As stated above, each member's personal beliefs about God and the Bible will be respected and protected. The essence of the meetings themselves will, I am sure, have some posative effect on all of our spirituality. A member should be permitted to share what has helped them spiritually, (since many are completely lost spiritually after leaving such a high control group of beliefs and teachings) which will include Scriptural distinctions and applications, which is really an individual stating their perspective and the meaning they have chosen to give it. There will be no evangelizing, however, and neither will any minister be present to indoctrinate.
4) does he have a recovery agenda (outline), and what is it?
We are still putting such an outline together, making progress, the details of which will be published here for all to check out and critique. I will be inviting therapists to attend and observe. This is another stepping stone to bridge the gap between what traditional therapists know and do and what x-JW's need specifically in their recovery. Suggestions for an outline or format is the reason I started this thread, btw.
Corvin
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so....i'm sure everybody has some songs where they listen and feel like they're the ones speaking in the lyrics... what kind of music does everybody like and what are the songs that they relate to the most?
MARATHON by RUSH
It's not how fast you can go
The force goes into the flow
If you pick up the beat
You can forget about the heat
More than just survival
More than just a flash
More than just a dotted line
More than just a dash
It's a test of ultimate will
The heartbreak climb uphill
Got to pick up the pace
If you want to stay in the race
More than just blind ambition
More than just simple greed
More than just a finish line
Must feed this burning need
In the long run...
[Chorus:]
From first to last
The peak is never passed
Something always fires the light that gets in your eyes
One moment's high, and glory rolls on by
Like a streak of lightning
That flashes and fades in the summer sky
Your meters may overload
You can rest at the side of the road
You can miss a stride
But nobody gets a free ride
More than high performance
More than just a spark
More than just the bottom line
Or a lucky shot in the dark
In the long run...
[Chorus]
You can do a lot in a lifetime
If you don't burn out too fast
You can make the most of the distance
First you need endurance
First you've got to last...
[Chorus]