Posts by Amazing1914

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The $20 Bill

by Amazing1914 in

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this note bears the image of andrew jackson, 7th president of the us, 1829-1837. as president, he got congress to pass a law that evicted all native indian tribes from all territory east of the mississippi river to the west.

the cherokee tribe living in the state of georgia chose to file suit against the us government instead of going on the war path.

the case went all the way to the us supreme court.

Amazing1914

Hi S,

Whoa, hey. This is a bit countercultural for you, jim.

Not really ... I am more interested in facts, than in protecting a position ... even if it hurts the reputation of my buds. Oddly enough, Jackson was part of the new Democratic party which had broken with the Democratic-Republican party of Jefferson. Jackson was called a "jack-ass" by his opposers. He loved the title so much that he had it adpoted the jack-ass as the mascot symbol used to this day by the Democratic party.

Sometimes israelis point to stuff like this for justification. S

Not really sure what you mean by this one. Could you explain? Thanks, Jim Hi Sabrina,

Also, if I'm not mistaken I believe you started a series on Channel C about evolution and the Bible. I found it interesting. Thanks for that information as well.

Well, many on Channel C did not really understand where I was coming from, and chose to argue over evolution, rather than discuss possibilities calmly. They missed the point that I really said little about justification of evolution, but was trying to address a braoder issue of how a person who accepts evolution could still believe in Christ and the Bible. So, I gave up on the series. Thanks for the comments, I appreciate knowing that you enjoyed my points. - Jim W. Hi Joy,

It is so heartbreaking to read of all the autrocities that was done to the native americans.

Yes, they were not treated properly. Although, the history is mixed, as many native American tribes were damn awful bloodthirsty warriors who murdered innocent civilians, women and children. Nonetheless, the US Government did more to harm them than the indians did to settlers. What really bugs me is why none of our Presidents, Democrat or Republican, nor any of our Senators or members of the House ever talk about indian issues. To this day, there are many broken treaties, and unsettled issues that continue to harm indian tribes. I wonder why we as citizens stand by and do nothing as well. - Jim W.

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The $20 Bill

by Amazing1914 in

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this note bears the image of andrew jackson, 7th president of the us, 1829-1837. as president, he got congress to pass a law that evicted all native indian tribes from all territory east of the mississippi river to the west.

the cherokee tribe living in the state of georgia chose to file suit against the us government instead of going on the war path.

the case went all the way to the us supreme court.

Amazing1914

This note bears the image of Andrew Jackson, 7th President of the US, 1829-1837. As President, he got Congress to pass a law that evicted all native indian tribes from all territory east of the Mississippi River to the west. The Cherokee Tribe living in the State of Georgia chose to file suit against the US Government instead of going on the war path. The case went all the way to the US Supreme Court. The Supremes ruled in favor of the Cherokees (a ruling that favored all the various tribes living east of the Mississippi) and clearly stipulated that the indians did not have to move.

What did Andrew Jackson do? Did he accept this ruling, and live by the Constitutional balance of power? No, he plainly stated that the Supreme Court made it ruling, now let them enforce it. He snubbed the ruling and using military force, had all the tribes rounded up and moved west of the Mississippi River. Technically, the Cherokee and other tribes have the right under US law to return and reclaim their tribal lands.

So, the next time you pull out a $20 Bill to pay for a movie or buy a burger and fries ... take a good long look at the face of Andrew Jackson ... and remember the Cherokee Indians. Maybe someday we will have the national balls to get this man's face off of our currency ... maybe even replace it with an honorable Cherokee Chief.

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We should make apostate flyers and put it in Bible study victims mailboxes!

by missy04 in

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seriously...i mean if we happened to know someone who is having a bible study, know a witness who is having serious doubts, ect., we could print out some really good information and (anonymously) put it in their mailboxes!!

or something like that.. any ideas??.

Amazing1914

If we know someone who is studying, we can send them a very nice letter. It is hard for people to put down a letter that is directed to them personally. Also, by mailing it, it gets into their mailbox the legal way. Merely placing something at their door might appear indifferent and impersonal.

I use to let people know at the church I attended for a short time, that I was an ex-JW. They would ask me what to do when someone they knew was studying. I would visit with them and discuss many details and help them to reason with the person they felt concern. This way, the JW Bible study received even more caring help and discussion than a letter from me.

Even still, people do what people do. I had one women call me because she was studying. She wanted to know what ex-JWs had to say. So, I loaned her Crisis of Conscience and In Search of Christian Freedom by Ray Franz. She read both, and we spent many hours on the phone discussing her concerns. Eventually, she decided to continue studying and became a JW. Well, at least she had moe information going into it then most JWs do. Hopefully someday she will wake up and realize what she did to herself.

Jim W.

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IronGland - You were AMAZING last night!

by Incense_and_Peppermints in

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(jk) .

hehehe

Amazing1914

Hey Incense,

... wait, I am Amazing ... so how can Irongland be Amazing ... unless ... ummmm ... well ...

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Walsh case, in Crisis of Conscience AND in JW Yearbook (1973)

by FreedomFrog in

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(again, this is dave, posting for gina) .

gina really thinks on her feet!

when she met with her parents, she brought up the infamous "walsh case" in crisis of conscience, where the watchtower higher-ups (including fred franz) had to give embarrassing testimony under oath about the watchtower's controlling methods and tactics.

Amazing1914

I have the entire Walsh trial transcript ... it, like the Rutherford trial, and Moyle trial, reveal just how foolish the JW religion really is. - Jim Whitney

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Stainless Steel Refrigerators

by carefully faded in

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i'm shopping for a new refrigerator and wanted to get your opinions on stainless steel appliances.

i love the look of them - but i've heard it is difficult to keep them looking nice because of fingerprints, etc.. .

i've seen some other finishes that look like stainless steel - they have a sateen coating that doesn't smudge and streak like stainless.

Amazing1914

Hi Care,

Stainless can look nice if you wipe it with very clean solution, not dingy dishwater ... and if you immediately dry it, so that the residual water does not form streaks. There are also stainless steel cleaners you can buy at many grocery stores that helps reduce streaking and fingerprints. - Jim W.

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Questions to ask Ray Franz?

by Released in

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sunday the 17th iwill be meeting him for the fist time.

i would like some feedback as to any questions you all may have(i have a bunch of my own) of which i will post next sunday night.

please keep them as short as possible so i,m not carrying a whole book when i go.

Amazing1914

Hi Released,

Like you, I took an opportunity to visit with Ray many years ago. We have become friends and talk on ocassion. When you see he and Cynthia, tell them Jim Whitney said hello. Jim W.

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Earthquake: Attention to all the people in California etc.

by Erich in

attention to all people in california etc.. earthquakes have a peculiar attribute: they appear on different point of the planet within very short times.

nobody knows why; but its a proven fact.. at dec. 22 this week (on wednesday) a very strong earthquake appered in the antarctic region (8,2 on richter scale).

if you are not aware of, look at:.

Amazing1914

E.

It appears you were offended. As I stated, that was not my purpose.

Jim W.

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Earthquake: Attention to all the people in California etc.

by Erich in

attention to all people in california etc.. earthquakes have a peculiar attribute: they appear on different point of the planet within very short times.

nobody knows why; but its a proven fact.. at dec. 22 this week (on wednesday) a very strong earthquake appered in the antarctic region (8,2 on richter scale).

if you are not aware of, look at:.

Amazing1914

Hi Erich,

I am trying to decide if you meant your post to be humorous, or if you really believe that you are being enlightening. I don't like offending people, so, if after you read my response, and you feel offended, then please understand that is not my intent.

Attention to all people in California etc.

I grew up in California, and experienced many earthquakes. As a native Californian I can attest that every Californian I knew understood and remains well aware of the fact that earthquakes can cause great harm. There are many earthquake prone areas all over earth. Why do you feel it necessary to warn Californians? Do you think they have forgotten about earthquakes? And what can they do about it anyway?

Earthquakes have a peculiar attribute: They appear on different point of the planet within very SHORT times. Nobody knows why; but its a proven fact.

Really, a proven fact? Wow, I never knew that! Just kidding. Although I am not a seismologist or geologist, I did work with seismic studies for nuclear power plants in my engineering career. We had to test equipment to operate during an earthquake. Contrary to your comment, scientists do know why earthquakes happen ... in fact, seismologists can give some level of prediction. They measure stresses near and at fault lines, such as the San Andreas fault in California, and can approximate an expectation. So, your point seems a little, shall we say, dated.

At Dec. 22 this week (on Wednesday) a very strong earthquake appered in the Antarctic region (8,2 on Richter scale). If you are not aware of, look at: http://www.teamamberalert.net/news/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=6116 4 days later, the hugh earthquake hits the south east asian region. Magnitude 8,9 on Richter scale.

Large earthquakes release enourmous energy, and this is why they may trigger tidal waves and can trigger earthquakes in other areas under stress that are about to have an earthquake anyway. Many earthquakes are centered on tectonic plates, which carry continents. These plates move very slowly and as they collide they generally form subduction zones which generate heat and lava. This is due to one plate sliding under the other. In such situations earthquakes are not common or very strong because the stress is gradually being released every day.

In other cases, these plates form great pressure until finally something gives. In California, most earthquakes are small, and release energy a little at a time, preventing big quakes. In other cases, especially the San Andreas fault, pressure tends to build over time. This is because the pacific plate is sliding north and tends to put pressure on the continental plate. There is no known subduction zone along the San Andreas that could gradually release energy until you get out into the Pacific.

Which region in the world could be the next?

Any region in the world that has tectonic plates under great stress could be next. Seismologists and geologists have developed very detailed maps of seismic zones throughout the entire planet. You can find this on line, and see where the hot zones are. See this site for some ideas: http://eqhazmaps.usgs.gov/

All you people in California, be careful, and keep on watching..

I lived near the San Andreas, and when I was 15 years old I was doing just as you said ... watching ... but my watching could not help me. I was knocked to the ground by waves of dirt coming at me. Yes, loose soil moves just like water waves during an earthquake. So, what do you expect the people in California to do? The only effective plan would be to leave the state.

Thanks for an entertaining post. - Jim W.

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WTS funding for project /seperate from the world?

by lurk in

sorry im post mad tonight.last post promise.

how come the wts preaches to be seperate from the world then gets money from nyserda ?.

you might think im over reacting ,but how come the authorities and buisnesss are satan one minute and a funder the next?

Amazing1914

Hi Toreador,

I have the list sotred on a disk. But, also, it was posted under my other screen name "Amazing." I have not yet had my posts under that name restored. I will do so in the not too distant future. In the meantime, I will look for my list on disk and see if I can report it. - Jim W.